From: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
To: Jacob Abel <jacobabel@nullpo.dev>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
"Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 19:39:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPig+cTTn764ObHJuw8epOtBdTUwocVRV=tLieCa4zf-PGCegw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221110233137.10414-1-jacobabel@nullpo.dev>
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 6:32 PM Jacob Abel <jacobabel@nullpo.dev> wrote:
> While working with the worktree based git workflow, I realised that setting
> up a new git repository required switching between the traditional and
> worktree based workflows. Searching online I found a SO answer [1] which
> seemed to support this and which indicated that adding support for this should
> not be technically difficult.
>
> * adding orphan branch functionality (as is present in `git-switch`)
> to `git-worktree-add`
I haven't had a chance yet to read v3, but can we take a step back for
a moment and look at this topic from a slightly different angle?
Setting aside the value of adding --orphan to `git worktree add`
(which, I'm perfectly fine with, as mentioned earlier), I have a
question about whether the solution proposed by this series is the
best we can do.
As I understand it, the actual problem this series wants to solve is
that it's not possible to create a new worktree from an empty bare
repository; for instance:
% git init --bare foo.git
% git -C foo.git worktree add -b main bar
Preparing worktree (new branch 'main')
fatal: not a valid object name: 'HEAD'
%
This series addresses that shortcoming by adding --orphan, so that the
following works:
% git init --bare foo.git
% git -C foo.git worktree add --orphan main bar
Preparing worktree (new branch 'main')
%
However, is this really the best and most user-friendly and most
discoverable solution? Is it likely that users are somehow going to
instinctively use --orphan when they see the "fatal: not a valid
object name: 'HEAD'" error message?
Wouldn't a better solution be to somehow fix `git worktree add -b
<branch>` so that it just works rather than erroring out? I haven't
delved into the implementation to determine if this is possible, but
if it is, it seems a far superior "fix" for the problem shown above
since it requires no extra effort on the user's part, and doesn't
raise any discoverability red-flags (since nothing needs to be
"discovered" if `-b <branch>` works as expected in the first place).
If fixing `-b <branch>` to "just work" is possible, then --orphan is
no longer a needed workaround but becomes "icing on the cake".
> Changes from v2:
>
> * Changed orphan creation behavior to match `git switch --orphan` instead of
> `git checkout --orphan` [2][3]. As a result `--orphan` no longer accepts a
> `<commit-ish>` and creates the orphan branch with a clean working directory.
Thanks for making this change.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-16 0:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-04 1:02 [PATCH 0/4] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 1:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] worktree add: Include -B in usage docs Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 3:05 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-11-04 4:24 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 1:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] builtin/worktree.c: Update checkout_worktree() to use git-worktree Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 1:32 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-04 3:58 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 20:45 ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-04 1:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] worktree add: add --orphan flag Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 1:33 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-04 4:11 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 5:03 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-11-04 16:41 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-10 4:13 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-11-10 21:21 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 1:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] worktree add: Add unit tests for --orphan Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 1:37 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-04 4:17 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 4:33 ` [PATCH 0/4] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Eric Sunshine
2022-11-04 4:47 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 4:50 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 21:34 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 21:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] worktree add: Include -B in usage docs Jacob Abel
2022-11-04 21:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] worktree add: add --orphan flag Jacob Abel
2022-11-10 23:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Jacob Abel
2022-11-10 23:32 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] worktree add: Include -B in usage docs Jacob Abel
2022-11-10 23:32 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] worktree add: add --orphan flag Jacob Abel
2022-11-15 21:08 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-15 21:29 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-11-15 22:35 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-16 0:19 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-11-19 3:13 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-19 3:09 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-19 11:50 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 1:44 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-22 6:00 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-11-22 23:09 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-15 22:09 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 2:57 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-19 11:50 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-16 0:39 ` Eric Sunshine [this message]
2022-11-17 10:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 3:47 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-19 11:48 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-22 5:16 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-11-22 23:26 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-22 23:55 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-23 2:47 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-23 2:43 ` Rubén Justo
2022-11-23 5:37 ` Jacob Abel
2022-11-23 7:35 ` Rubén Justo
2022-11-22 14:45 ` Phillip Wood
2022-11-23 4:21 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 1:42 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] " Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 1:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] worktree add: Include -B in usage docs Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 1:42 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] worktree add: add --orphan flag Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 8:11 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-12 14:55 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 18:14 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-12 22:39 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 1:43 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] worktree add: Add hint to use --orphan when bad ref Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 8:35 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-12 14:59 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 18:16 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-12 18:35 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-12-12 22:36 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-12 22:38 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 2:37 ` [PATCH v5 0/4] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 2:37 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] worktree add: Include -B in usage docs Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 3:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-20 23:24 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 2:37 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] worktree add: refactor opt exclusion tests Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 4:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-20 23:29 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 2:38 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] worktree add: add --orphan flag Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 4:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-21 0:17 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 2:38 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] worktree add: Add hint to use --orphan when bad ref Jacob Abel
2022-12-20 6:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-21 0:42 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-28 6:16 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Jacob Abel
2022-12-28 6:16 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] worktree add: include -B in usage docs Jacob Abel
2022-12-28 6:16 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] worktree add: refactor opt exclusion tests Jacob Abel
2022-12-28 12:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-29 6:51 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-29 10:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-29 20:48 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-06 6:31 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-06 12:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-07 4:45 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-28 6:17 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] worktree add: add --orphan flag Jacob Abel
2022-12-28 6:17 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] worktree add: add hint to direct users towards --orphan Jacob Abel
2023-01-06 14:19 ` Phillip Wood
2022-12-28 8:01 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-29 6:38 ` Jacob Abel
2022-12-29 10:42 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-29 21:22 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v7 " Jacob Abel
2023-01-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] worktree add: include -B in usage docs Jacob Abel
2023-01-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] worktree add: refactor opt exclusion tests Jacob Abel
2023-01-08 7:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-08 15:08 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] worktree add: add --orphan flag Jacob Abel
2023-01-07 4:59 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] worktree add: add hint to direct users towards --orphan Jacob Abel
2023-01-09 12:26 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-01-09 17:11 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-09 17:21 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-01-09 17:26 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-09 17:32 ` [PATCH v8 " Jacob Abel
2023-01-09 17:32 ` [PATCH v8 1/4] worktree add: include -B in usage docs Jacob Abel
2023-01-09 17:33 ` [PATCH v8 2/4] worktree add: refactor opt exclusion tests Jacob Abel
2023-01-09 17:33 ` [PATCH v8 3/4] worktree add: add --orphan flag Jacob Abel
2023-01-13 10:20 ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-13 17:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-14 22:47 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-15 3:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-15 3:41 ` rsbecker
2023-01-15 3:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-18 22:46 ` 'Jacob Abel'
2023-01-18 22:18 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-19 15:32 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-01-19 16:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-16 10:47 ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-18 22:40 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-19 16:18 ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-19 22:20 ` Jacob Abel
2023-01-09 17:33 ` [PATCH v8 4/4] worktree add: add hint to direct users towards --orphan Jacob Abel
2023-01-09 19:20 ` [PATCH v8 0/4] worktree: Support `--orphan` when creating new worktrees Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-01-13 17:34 ` Junio C Hamano
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-12-08 21:41 [PATCH v3 0/2] " Jacob Abel
2022-12-08 22:00 ` rsbecker
2022-12-12 0:38 ` 'Jacob Abel'
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