From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
"Alex Williamson (alex.williamson@redhat.com)"
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Subject: RE: Plan for /dev/ioasid RFC v2
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 09:43:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MWHPR11MB18860C8052D73508CF023AD28C369@MWHPR11MB1886.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YMCDfWLw6r80Wdu3@unreal>
> From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 5:02 PM
>
> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 02:58:18AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > Hi, all,
>
> <...>
>
> > (Remaining opens in v1)
>
> <...>
>
> > - Device-centric (Jason) vs. group-centric (David) uAPI. David is not fully
> > convinced yet. Based on discussion v2 will continue to have ioasid uAPI
> > being device-centric (but it's fine for vfio to be group-centric). A new
> > section will be added to elaborate this part;
>
> <...>
>
> > (Adopted suggestions)
>
> <...>
>
> > - (Jason) Addition of device label allows per-device capability/format
> > check before IOASIDs are created. This leads to another major uAPI
> > change in v2 - specify format info when creating an IOASID (mapping
> > protocol, nesting, coherent, etc.). User is expected to check per-device
> > format and then set proper format for IOASID upon to-be-attached
> > device;
>
> Sorry for my naive question, I still didn't read all v1 thread and maybe
> the answer is already written, but will ask anyway.
>
> Doesn't this adopted suggestion to allow device-specific configuration
> actually means that uAPI should be device-centric?
>
> User already needs to be aware of device, configure it explicitly, maybe
> gracefully clean it later, it looks like not so much left to be group-centric.
>
Yes, this is what v2 will lean toward. /dev/ioasid reports format info and
handle IOASID attachment per device. VFIO could still keep its group-
centric uAPI, but in the end it needs bind each device in the group to
IOASID FD one-by-one.
Thanks
Kevin
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
"parav@mellanox.com" <parav@mellanox.com>,
"Alex Williamson \(alex.williamson@redhat.com\)"
<alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@metux.net>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Shenming Lu <lushenming@huawei.com>,
"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: RE: Plan for /dev/ioasid RFC v2
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 09:43:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MWHPR11MB18860C8052D73508CF023AD28C369@MWHPR11MB1886.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YMCDfWLw6r80Wdu3@unreal>
> From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 5:02 PM
>
> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 02:58:18AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > Hi, all,
>
> <...>
>
> > (Remaining opens in v1)
>
> <...>
>
> > - Device-centric (Jason) vs. group-centric (David) uAPI. David is not fully
> > convinced yet. Based on discussion v2 will continue to have ioasid uAPI
> > being device-centric (but it's fine for vfio to be group-centric). A new
> > section will be added to elaborate this part;
>
> <...>
>
> > (Adopted suggestions)
>
> <...>
>
> > - (Jason) Addition of device label allows per-device capability/format
> > check before IOASIDs are created. This leads to another major uAPI
> > change in v2 - specify format info when creating an IOASID (mapping
> > protocol, nesting, coherent, etc.). User is expected to check per-device
> > format and then set proper format for IOASID upon to-be-attached
> > device;
>
> Sorry for my naive question, I still didn't read all v1 thread and maybe
> the answer is already written, but will ask anyway.
>
> Doesn't this adopted suggestion to allow device-specific configuration
> actually means that uAPI should be device-centric?
>
> User already needs to be aware of device, configure it explicitly, maybe
> gracefully clean it later, it looks like not so much left to be group-centric.
>
Yes, this is what v2 will lean toward. /dev/ioasid reports format info and
handle IOASID attachment per device. VFIO could still keep its group-
centric uAPI, but in the end it needs bind each device in the group to
IOASID FD one-by-one.
Thanks
Kevin
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Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-07 2:58 Plan for /dev/ioasid RFC v2 Tian, Kevin
2021-06-07 2:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09 8:14 ` Eric Auger
2021-06-09 8:14 ` Eric Auger
2021-06-09 9:37 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09 9:37 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09 10:14 ` Eric Auger
2021-06-09 10:14 ` Eric Auger
2021-06-09 9:01 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-06-09 9:01 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-06-09 9:43 ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2021-06-09 9:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09 12:24 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 12:24 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 13:32 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 13:32 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 15:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 15:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 15:51 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 15:51 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 16:15 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09 16:15 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09 16:27 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09 16:27 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09 18:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 18:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-10 15:38 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-10 15:38 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-11 0:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-11 0:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-11 21:38 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-11 21:38 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 3:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-14 3:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-14 3:22 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 3:22 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 1:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15 1:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-14 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15 1:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15 1:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15 16:56 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 16:56 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-16 6:53 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-16 6:53 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-24 4:50 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 4:50 ` David Gibson
2021-06-11 16:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-11 16:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-11 19:38 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-11 19:38 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-12 1:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-12 1:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-12 16:57 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-12 16:57 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 14:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 16:28 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 16:28 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 19:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 19:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15 2:31 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15 2:31 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15 16:12 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 16:12 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-16 6:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-16 6:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-16 19:39 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-16 19:39 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-17 3:39 ` Liu Yi L
2021-06-17 3:39 ` Liu Yi L
2021-06-17 7:31 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-17 7:31 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-17 21:14 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-17 21:14 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-18 0:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 0:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 16:57 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-18 16:57 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-18 18:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 18:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-25 10:27 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-25 10:27 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-25 14:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-25 14:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 1:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 1:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 22:31 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-28 22:31 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-28 22:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 22:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 23:09 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-28 23:09 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-28 23:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 23:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-29 0:26 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29 0:26 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29 0:28 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29 0:28 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29 0:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29 0:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 2:03 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 2:03 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 14:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 14:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 6:45 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 6:45 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 16:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 16:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24 4:26 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 4:26 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 5:59 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-24 5:59 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-24 12:22 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-24 12:22 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-24 4:23 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 4:23 ` David Gibson
2021-06-18 0:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 0:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 13:47 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-18 13:47 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-18 15:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 15:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 15:37 ` Raj, Ashok
2021-06-18 15:37 ` Raj, Ashok
2021-06-18 15:51 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-18 15:51 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-24 4:29 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 4:29 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 11:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24 11:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 0:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 0:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-17 5:29 ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 5:29 ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 5:02 ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 5:02 ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 23:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-17 23:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24 4:37 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 4:37 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 11:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24 11:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-10 5:50 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-10 5:50 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-17 5:22 ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 5:22 ` David Gibson
2021-06-18 5:21 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-18 5:21 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-24 4:03 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 4:03 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 13:42 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-24 13:42 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-17 4:45 ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 4:45 ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-17 23:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24 4:07 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 4:07 ` David Gibson
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