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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "Alex Williamson (alex.williamson@redhat.com)" 
	<alex.williamson@redhat.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"parav@mellanox.com" <parav@mellanox.com>,
	"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@metux.net>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Shenming Lu <lushenming@huawei.com>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, "Wu, Hao" <hao.wu@intel.com>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Plan for /dev/ioasid RFC v2
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 13:26:04 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210628162604.GE4459@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB543382665D34E58155A9593C8C039@BN9PR11MB5433.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 06:45:23AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:

> 7)   Unbinding detaches the device from the block_dma domain and
>        re-attach it to the default domain. From now on the user should 
>        be denied from accessing the device. vfio should tear down the
>        MMIO mapping at this point.

I think we should just forbid this, so long as the device_fd is open
the iommu_fd cannot be destroyed and there is no way to detact a
device other than closing its Fd.

revoke is tricky enough to implement we should avoid it.

> It's still an open whether we want to further allow devices within a group 
> attached to different IOASIDs in case that the source devices are reliably 
> identifiable. This is an usage not supported by existing vfio and might be
> not worthwhile due to improved isolation over time.

The main decision here is to decide if the uAPI should have some way to
indicate that a device does not have its own unique IOASID but is
sharing with the group

Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"parav@mellanox.com" <parav@mellanox.com>,
	"Alex Williamson \(alex.williamson@redhat.com\)"
	<alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@metux.net>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Shenming Lu <lushenming@huawei.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Plan for /dev/ioasid RFC v2
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 13:26:04 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210628162604.GE4459@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB543382665D34E58155A9593C8C039@BN9PR11MB5433.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 06:45:23AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:

> 7)   Unbinding detaches the device from the block_dma domain and
>        re-attach it to the default domain. From now on the user should 
>        be denied from accessing the device. vfio should tear down the
>        MMIO mapping at this point.

I think we should just forbid this, so long as the device_fd is open
the iommu_fd cannot be destroyed and there is no way to detact a
device other than closing its Fd.

revoke is tricky enough to implement we should avoid it.

> It's still an open whether we want to further allow devices within a group 
> attached to different IOASIDs in case that the source devices are reliably 
> identifiable. This is an usage not supported by existing vfio and might be
> not worthwhile due to improved isolation over time.

The main decision here is to decide if the uAPI should have some way to
indicate that a device does not have its own unique IOASID but is
sharing with the group

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-28 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-07  2:58 Plan for /dev/ioasid RFC v2 Tian, Kevin
2021-06-07  2:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09  8:14 ` Eric Auger
2021-06-09  8:14   ` Eric Auger
2021-06-09  9:37   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09  9:37     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09 10:14     ` Eric Auger
2021-06-09 10:14       ` Eric Auger
2021-06-09  9:01 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-06-09  9:01   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-06-09  9:43   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09  9:43     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-09 12:24 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 12:24   ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 12:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 12:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 13:32     ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 13:32       ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 15:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 15:00         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 15:51         ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 15:51           ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-09 16:15           ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09 16:15             ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09 16:27             ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09 16:27               ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-09 18:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-09 18:49                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-10 15:38                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-10 15:38                   ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-11  0:58                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-11  0:58                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-11 21:38                     ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-11 21:38                       ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14  3:09                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-14  3:09                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-14  3:22                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14  3:22                           ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15  1:05                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15  1:05                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-14 13:38                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 13:38                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15  1:21                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15  1:21                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15 16:56                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 16:56                               ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-16  6:53                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-16  6:53                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-24  4:50                             ` David Gibson
2021-06-24  4:50                               ` David Gibson
2021-06-11 16:45                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-11 16:45                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-11 19:38                     ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-11 19:38                       ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-12  1:28                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-12  1:28                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-12 16:57                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-12 16:57                           ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 14:07                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 14:07                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 16:28                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 16:28                               ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-14 19:40                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-14 19:40                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-15  2:31                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15  2:31                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-15 16:12                                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-15 16:12                                   ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-16  6:43                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-16  6:43                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-16 19:39                                     ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-16 19:39                                       ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-17  3:39                                       ` Liu Yi L
2021-06-17  3:39                                         ` Liu Yi L
2021-06-17  7:31                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-17  7:31                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-17 21:14                                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-17 21:14                                           ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-18  0:19                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18  0:19                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 16:57                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-18 16:57                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-18 18:23                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 18:23                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-25 10:27                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-25 10:27                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-25 14:36                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-25 14:36                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28  1:09                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28  1:09                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 22:31                                                       ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-28 22:31                                                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-28 22:48                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 22:48                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 23:09                                                           ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-28 23:09                                                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-28 23:13                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 23:13                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-29  0:26                                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29  0:26                                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29  0:28                                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29  0:28                                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29  0:43                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-29  0:43                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28  2:03                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28  2:03                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 14:41                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28 14:41                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-28  6:45                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28  6:45                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-28 16:26                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-06-28 16:26                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24  4:26                                               ` David Gibson
2021-06-24  4:26                                                 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24  5:59                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-24  5:59                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-06-24 12:22                                                 ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-24 12:22                                                   ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-24  4:23                                           ` David Gibson
2021-06-24  4:23                                             ` David Gibson
2021-06-18  0:52                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18  0:52                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 13:47                                         ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-18 13:47                                           ` Joerg Roedel
2021-06-18 15:15                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 15:15                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18 15:37                                             ` Raj, Ashok
2021-06-18 15:37                                               ` Raj, Ashok
2021-06-18 15:51                                               ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-18 15:51                                                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-06-24  4:29                                             ` David Gibson
2021-06-24  4:29                                               ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 11:56                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24 11:56                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18  0:10                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-18  0:10                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-17  5:29                     ` David Gibson
2021-06-17  5:29                       ` David Gibson
2021-06-17  5:02             ` David Gibson
2021-06-17  5:02               ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 23:04               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-17 23:04                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24  4:37                 ` David Gibson
2021-06-24  4:37                   ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 11:57                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24 11:57                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-10  5:50     ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-10  5:50       ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-17  5:22       ` David Gibson
2021-06-17  5:22         ` David Gibson
2021-06-18  5:21         ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-18  5:21           ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-24  4:03           ` David Gibson
2021-06-24  4:03             ` David Gibson
2021-06-24 13:42             ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-24 13:42               ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-17  4:45     ` David Gibson
2021-06-17  4:45       ` David Gibson
2021-06-17 23:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-17 23:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-06-24  4:07         ` David Gibson
2021-06-24  4:07           ` David Gibson

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