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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>, John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>,
	Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:47:29 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f74fb509-0e1a-9542-d80c-0bec2a1e6740@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BGRtcBQ_6fkMrTskV9dk71ffycXZ8hEE_RaOrAdza_wLA@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Elijah & Stolee,

On Sat, 29 Apr 2023, Elijah Newren wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:23 AM Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 4/22/2023 9:18 PM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 6:44 AM Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 4/20/2023 12:53 AM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> > >>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 6:10 AM Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>  3. (Ordering options) Modifications to how those commits are ordered,
> > >>     such as --topo-order, --date-order, and --reverse. These seem to
> > >>     be overridden by git-replay (although, --reverse probably causes
> > >>     some confusion right now).
> > >
> > > Yep, intentionally overridden.
> > >
> > > Could you elaborate on what you mean by --reverse causing confusion?
> >
> > It's very unlikely that a list of patches will successfully apply
> > when applied in the reverse order. If we allow the argument, then
> > someone will try it thinking they can flip their commits. Then they
> > might be surprised when there are a bunch of conflicts on every
> > commit.
> >
> > Basically, I'm not super thrilled about exposing options that are
> > unlikely to be valuable to users and instead are more likely to cause
> > confusion due to changes that won't successfully apply.
>
> Oh, I got thrown by the "right now" portion of your comment; I
> couldn't see how time or future changes would affect anything to make
> it less (or more) confusing for users.
>
> Quick clarification, though: while you correctly point out the type of
> confusion the user would experience without my overriding, my
> overriding of rev.reverse (after setup_revisions() returns, not before
> it is called) precludes that experience.  The override means none of
> the above happens, and they would instead just wonder why their option
> is being ignored.

FWIW here is my view on the matter: `git replay`, at least in its current
incarnation, is a really low-level tool. As such, I actually do not want
to worry much about protecting users from nonsensical invocations.

In that light, I would like to see that code rejecting all revision
options except `--diff-algorithm` be dropped. Should we ever decide to add
a non-low-level mode to `git replay`, we can easily add some user-friendly
sanity check of the options then, and only for that non-low-level code.
For now, I feel that it's just complicating things, and `git replay` is in
the experimental phase anyway.

And further, I would even like to see that `--reverse` override go, and
turn it into `revs.reverse = !revs.reverse` instead. (And yes, I can
easily think of instances where I would have wanted to reverse a series of
patches...).

Ciao,
Johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-03 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 208+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-07  7:24 [PATCH 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 01/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 02/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 03/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 04/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 05/14] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 06/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 07/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 08/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 09/14] replay: very coarse worktree updating Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-04-14 14:09   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-14 14:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-15 19:07       ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-16  5:28         ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-17 14:05         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-18  5:54           ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-18 13:10             ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-20  4:53               ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-20 13:44                 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-23  1:18                   ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-24 15:23                     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-30  6:45                       ` Elijah Newren
2023-09-03 15:47                         ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2023-09-07  8:39                           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:22                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-17 15:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-18  5:58           ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-18  4:58       ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-15 18:30     ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 12/14] replay: introduce guess_new_base() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 13/14] replay: add different modes Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-04-14 10:12 ` [PATCH 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Phillip Wood
2023-04-15 17:18   ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-14 17:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-04-15  6:44 ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] " Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:25     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:26     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:26     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 22:28   ` [PATCH v2 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Junio C Hamano
2023-05-10  7:33     ` Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:42   ` Elijah Newren
2023-06-02 10:25   ` [PATCH v3 " Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:01       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:32         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:03       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:32         ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 21:02           ` Dragan Simic
2023-10-10 12:44             ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 14:02               ` Dragan Simic
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-07-25 21:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-09-07  8:33         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:05       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:35         ` Christian Couder
2023-07-25 21:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-09-07  8:35         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:10       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:37         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-06-03  1:42     ` [PATCH v3 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Junio C Hamano
2023-06-05  7:11       ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25     ` [PATCH v4 " Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:42           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:43           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:49           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-08 22:55         ` Linus Arver
2023-09-10  3:20           ` Linus Arver
2023-10-10 12:48             ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:48           ` Christian Couder
2023-10-19 19:26             ` Linus Arver
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:49           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:25       ` [PATCH v4 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:50         ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38       ` [PATCH v5 00/14] " Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-10-19 19:49           ` Linus Arver
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-10-26 13:44         ` [PATCH v5 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-29  6:01           ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-02 14:59             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:25               ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-02 15:06           ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:25             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-29  6:00         ` Elijah Newren
2023-10-29 14:14           ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-30 17:18             ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-02 14:44               ` Christian Couder
2023-11-02 14:48           ` Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51         ` [PATCH v6 " Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-07  2:43           ` [PATCH v6 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Elijah Newren
2023-11-07  9:43             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:51               ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:19             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-08 12:47           ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-15 14:46             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-16  8:45               ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-16  8:52                 ` Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33           ` [PATCH v7 " Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-16  8:53             ` [PATCH v7 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-23 19:32               ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-24  0:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-11-24 11:10             ` [PATCH v8 " Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-25  0:02               ` [PATCH v8 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin

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