From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>, Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>,
Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
Calvin Wan <calvinwan@google.com>, Toon Claes <toon@iotcl.com>,
Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>,
Linus Arver <linusa@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:44:44 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd872b81-80a9-5e4e-dcb6-faebc9671848@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231010123847.2777056-1-christian.couder@gmail.com>
Hi Christian,
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023, Christian Couder wrote:
> 6: ec51351889 ! 6: 37d545d5d6 replay: don't simplify history
> @@ Metadata
> Author: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
>
> ## Commit message ##
> - replay: don't simplify history
> + replay: change rev walking options
>
> Let's set the rev walking options we need after calling
> - setup_revisions() instead of before. This makes it clearer which options
> - we need.
> + setup_revisions() instead of before. This enforces options we always
> + want.
> +
> + We want the command to work from older commits to newer ones by default,
> + but we are Ok with letting users reverse that, using --reverse, if that's
> + what they really want.
>
> Also we don't want history simplification, as we want to deal with all
> the commits in the affected range.
>
> + Helped-by: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
> Co-authored-by: Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
> Signed-off-by: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
> @@ builtin/replay.c: int cmd_replay(int argc, const char **argv, const char *prefix
> }
>
> + /* requirements/overrides for revs */
> -+ revs.reverse = 1;
> ++ revs.reverse = !revs.reverse;
> + revs.sort_order = REV_SORT_IN_GRAPH_ORDER;
> + revs.topo_order = 1;
> + revs.simplify_history = 0;
This still overrides a couple of command-line options, _silently_. I would
prefer those three assignments to be moved just before the
`setup_revisions()` call.
Letting users override these settings may not make much sense, but it
makes even less sense to pretend to let them override the settings and
then just ignore them without warning. (See also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment.)
Moving these three assignments before the `setup_revisions()` call would
neatly remedy that.
> 7: cd4ed07d2d = 7: 2943f08926 replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing
> 8: e45a55917c = 8: f81962ba41 replay: remove progress and info output
> 9: 0587a76cbb = 9: 236747497e replay: remove HEAD related sanity check
> 10: d10368e87a = 10: 3374d5be23 replay: make it a minimal server side command
> 11: 4e09572c43 ! 11: 197d076a93 replay: use standard revision ranges
> @@ Commit message
> way as many other Git commands. This makes its interface more
> standard and more flexible.
>
> + This also enables many revision related options accepted and
> + eaten by setup_revisions(). If the replay command was a high level
> + one or had a high level mode, it would make sense to restrict some
> + of the possible options, like those generating non-contiguous
> + history, as they could be confusing for most users.
> +
> Also as the interface of the command is now mostly finalized,
> we can add some documentation as well as testcases to make sure
> the command will continue to work as designed in the future.
>
> + We only document the rev-list related options among all the
> + revision related options that are now accepted, as the rev-list
> + related ones are probably the most useful for now.
> +
> + Helped-by: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
> + Helped-by: Linus Arver <linusa@google.com>
> Co-authored-by: Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
> Signed-off-by: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
> @@ Documentation/git-replay.txt (new)
> +
> +NAME
> +----
> -+git-replay - Replay commits on a different base, without touching working tree
> ++git-replay - Replay commits on a new base, works on bare repos too
> +
> +
> +SYNOPSIS
As mentioned in
https://lore.kernel.org/git/03460733-0219-c648-5757-db1958f8042e@gmx.de/,
I would like the `EXPERIMENTAL` label to be shown prominently here.
Probably not only the `SYNOPSIS` as I had originally suggested but also in
the `NAME`.
Otherwise we may end up with the same situation as with the (from my
perspective, failed) `git switch`/`git restore` experiment, where we
wanted to explore a better user experience than the overloaded `git
checkout` command, only to now be stuck with having to maintain
backward-compatibility for `git switch`/`git restore` command-line options
that were not meant to be set in stone but to be iterated on, instead. A
real-life demonstration of [Hyrum's Law](hyrumslaw.com/), if you like. Or,
from a different angle, we re-enacted https://xkcd.com/927/ in a way.
I'd like to suggest to learn from history and avoid this by tacking on a
warning label right at the top of the documentation. We may eventually
manage to iterate `git replay` to a point where it is totally capable to
supersede `git rebase`, by doing everything the latter does, except
better, who knows? But we _do_ need the liberty to make sweeping changes
to this new builtin if we want to have a prayer of doing that. And I fear
that not even mentioning the EXPERIMENTAL nature right at the top of the
manual page would just render us into that undesirable corner.
In addition, I am still a bit uneasy with introducing both the manual page
and the test script in this commit (see my comments in
https://lore.kernel.org/git/03460733-0219-c648-5757-db1958f8042e@gmx.de/).
It would be better to uphold our high standard and introduce scaffolds for
both files in the first commit, then populate the file contents
incrementally in the same the patches that introduce the corresponding
options/features/changes.
The rest of the interdiff consists mostly of context changes intermixed
with a couple of changes that I like.
Ciao,
Johannes
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2023-04-07 7:24 [PATCH 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 01/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 02/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 03/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 04/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 05/14] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 06/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 07/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 08/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 09/14] replay: very coarse worktree updating Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-04-14 14:09 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-14 14:23 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-15 19:07 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-16 5:28 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-17 14:05 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-18 5:54 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-18 13:10 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-20 4:53 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-20 13:44 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-23 1:18 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-24 15:23 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-30 6:45 ` Elijah Newren
2023-09-03 15:47 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-09-07 8:39 ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-17 15:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-18 5:58 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-18 4:58 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-15 18:30 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 12/14] replay: introduce guess_new_base() Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 13/14] replay: add different modes Christian Couder
2023-04-07 7:24 ` [PATCH 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-04-14 10:12 ` [PATCH 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Phillip Wood
2023-04-15 17:18 ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-14 17:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-04-15 6:44 ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] " Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-05-16 4:25 ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-05-16 4:26 ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-05-16 4:26 ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Junio C Hamano
2023-05-10 7:33 ` Christian Couder
2023-05-16 4:42 ` Elijah Newren
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 " Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:01 ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07 8:32 ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:03 ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07 8:32 ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 21:02 ` Dragan Simic
2023-10-10 12:44 ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 14:02 ` Dragan Simic
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-07-25 21:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-09-07 8:33 ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:05 ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07 8:35 ` Christian Couder
2023-07-25 21:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-09-07 8:35 ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:10 ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07 8:37 ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-06-03 1:42 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Junio C Hamano
2023-06-05 7:11 ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 " Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:23 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:42 ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:23 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:43 ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:49 ` Christian Couder
2023-09-08 22:55 ` Linus Arver
2023-09-10 3:20 ` Linus Arver
2023-10-10 12:48 ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:48 ` Christian Couder
2023-10-19 19:26 ` Linus Arver
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:49 ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-09-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:25 ` [PATCH v4 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:50 ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] " Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
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2023-10-10 12:38 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
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2023-10-10 12:38 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
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2023-11-07 2:43 ` [PATCH v6 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Elijah Newren
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2023-11-15 14:51 ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
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2023-11-15 14:46 ` Christian Couder
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2023-11-15 14:33 ` [PATCH v7 " Christian Couder
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2023-11-15 14:33 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
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2023-11-24 11:10 ` [PATCH v8 " Christian Couder
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