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From: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>, John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>,
	Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 10:39:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP8UFD2KMikjJJQ0FGXO1EYYHRNWHH2n70UATU_o61PJ411f2Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f74fb509-0e1a-9542-d80c-0bec2a1e6740@gmx.de>

Hi Dscho,

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 5:47 PM Johannes Schindelin
<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Elijah & Stolee,
>
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2023, Elijah Newren wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:23 AM Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> wrote:

> > > Basically, I'm not super thrilled about exposing options that are
> > > unlikely to be valuable to users and instead are more likely to cause
> > > confusion due to changes that won't successfully apply.
> >
> > Oh, I got thrown by the "right now" portion of your comment; I
> > couldn't see how time or future changes would affect anything to make
> > it less (or more) confusing for users.
> >
> > Quick clarification, though: while you correctly point out the type of
> > confusion the user would experience without my overriding, my
> > overriding of rev.reverse (after setup_revisions() returns, not before
> > it is called) precludes that experience.  The override means none of
> > the above happens, and they would instead just wonder why their option
> > is being ignored.
>
> FWIW here is my view on the matter: `git replay`, at least in its current
> incarnation, is a really low-level tool. As such, I actually do not want
> to worry much about protecting users from nonsensical invocations.
>
> In that light, I would like to see that code rejecting all revision
> options except `--diff-algorithm` be dropped. Should we ever decide to add
> a non-low-level mode to `git replay`, we can easily add some user-friendly
> sanity check of the options then, and only for that non-low-level code.
> For now, I feel that it's just complicating things, and `git replay` is in
> the experimental phase anyway.

I would be Ok with removing the patch (called "replay: disallow
revision specific options and pathspecs")
that rejects all revision options and pathspecs if there is a
consensus for that. It might not simplify things too much if there is
still an exception for `--diff-algorithm` though. Also it's not clear
if you are Ok with allowing pathspecs or not.

The idea with disallowing all of them was to later add back those that
make sense along with tests and maybe docs to explain them in the
context of this command. It was not to disallow them permanently. So I
would think the best path forward would be a patch series on top of
this one that would revert the patch disallowing these options and
maybe pathspecs, and instead allow most of them and document and test
things a bit.

> And further, I would even like to see that `--reverse` override go, and
> turn it into `revs.reverse = !revs.reverse` instead. (And yes, I can
> easily think of instances where I would have wanted to reverse a series of
> patches...).

I think this might deserve docs and tests too, so it might want to be
part of a separate patch series once the existing one has graduated.

At this point I don't think it's worth delaying this patch series for
relatively small issues like this. There are many different ways this
new command can be polished and improved. The important thing is that
it looks like we all agree that the new command makes sense and should
have roughly the basic set of features that Elijah originally
implemented, so let's go with this, and then we can improve and
iterate on top of this.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-07 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 208+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-07  7:24 [PATCH 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 01/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 02/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 03/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 04/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 05/14] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 06/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 07/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 08/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 09/14] replay: very coarse worktree updating Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-04-14 14:09   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-14 14:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-15 19:07       ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-16  5:28         ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-17 14:05         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-18  5:54           ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-18 13:10             ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-20  4:53               ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-20 13:44                 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-23  1:18                   ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-24 15:23                     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-30  6:45                       ` Elijah Newren
2023-09-03 15:47                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-09-07  8:39                           ` Christian Couder [this message]
2023-09-07 10:22                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-17 15:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-18  5:58           ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-18  4:58       ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-15 18:30     ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 12/14] replay: introduce guess_new_base() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 13/14] replay: add different modes Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-04-14 10:12 ` [PATCH 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Phillip Wood
2023-04-15 17:18   ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-14 17:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-04-15  6:44 ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] " Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:25     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:26     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:26     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 22:28   ` [PATCH v2 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Junio C Hamano
2023-05-10  7:33     ` Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:42   ` Elijah Newren
2023-06-02 10:25   ` [PATCH v3 " Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:01       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:32         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:03       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:32         ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 21:02           ` Dragan Simic
2023-10-10 12:44             ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 14:02               ` Dragan Simic
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-07-25 21:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-09-07  8:33         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:05       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:35         ` Christian Couder
2023-07-25 21:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-09-07  8:35         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:10       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:37         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-06-03  1:42     ` [PATCH v3 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Junio C Hamano
2023-06-05  7:11       ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25     ` [PATCH v4 " Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:42           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:43           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:49           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-08 22:55         ` Linus Arver
2023-09-10  3:20           ` Linus Arver
2023-10-10 12:48             ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:48           ` Christian Couder
2023-10-19 19:26             ` Linus Arver
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:49           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:25       ` [PATCH v4 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:50         ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38       ` [PATCH v5 00/14] " Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-10-19 19:49           ` Linus Arver
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-10-26 13:44         ` [PATCH v5 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-29  6:01           ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-02 14:59             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:25               ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-02 15:06           ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:25             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-29  6:00         ` Elijah Newren
2023-10-29 14:14           ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-30 17:18             ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-02 14:44               ` Christian Couder
2023-11-02 14:48           ` Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51         ` [PATCH v6 " Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-07  2:43           ` [PATCH v6 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Elijah Newren
2023-11-07  9:43             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:51               ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:19             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-08 12:47           ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-15 14:46             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-16  8:45               ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-16  8:52                 ` Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33           ` [PATCH v7 " Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-16  8:53             ` [PATCH v7 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-23 19:32               ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-24  0:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-11-24 11:10             ` [PATCH v8 " Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-25  0:02               ` [PATCH v8 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin

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