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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
	 Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>,
	 Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
	Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	 Calvin Wan <calvinwan@google.com>, Toon Claes <toon@iotcl.com>,
	Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>,
	 Linus Arver <linusa@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 23:00:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BGCzxL-kpOvZzWRTJcx2v18QHm5ev8bFv7bm0dyNqhKug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231010123847.2777056-1-christian.couder@gmail.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 5:39 AM Christian Couder
<christian.couder@gmail.com> wrote:
> * Patch 12/15 (replay: disallow revision specific options and
>   pathspecs) in version 4 has been removed, so there are now only 14
>   patches instead of 15 in the series. This follows a suggestion by
>   Dscho, and goes in the direction Elijah initially wanted before
>   Derrick Stolee argued for disallowing revision specific options and
>   pathspecs.

That's too strongly worded; and may be misleading.  My primary goal in
that discussion was that setup_revisions() should not be a disallowed
API for future consumers such as git-replay.  My secondary thought, at
the time, was that although I agreed that setup_revisions() was a
problematic API, I didn't think fixing it should be a prerequisite for
new features to make use of it.

However, your paragraph here could easily be read that I think the
setup_revisions() API is fine.  I don't.  I actually think fixing the
setup_revisions() API and preventing not only git-replay but many
other commands from accepting non-sensical flags, as suggested by
Stolee, is a very good idea.  I even brought up the example
$ git stash show --graph --relative-date --min-parents=3
     --simplify-merges --cherry --show-pulls --unpacked -v -t -8
     --format=oneline --abbrev=12 --pretty=fuller --show-notes
     --encode-email-headers --always --branches --indexed-objects stash@{0}
in the thread[1] along with the comment "guess which flags are ignored
and which aren't".  That's garbage.  This digging plus various things
Stolee said actually convinced me that perhaps prioritizing fixing the
setup_revisions() API over adding new consumers does make sense.

But, I don't feel nearly as strong about it as Stolee on
prioritization, so I'm not going to object too strongly with this
patch being tossed for now.  But I do want to note that I actually
like Stolee's suggestion that we should fix that API and tighten what
many commands accept.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/f5dd91a7-ba11-917a-39e2-2737829558cb@github.com/

> * In patch 2/14 (replay: introduce new builtin) the command is now in
>   the "plumbingmanipulators" category instead of the "mainporcelain"
>   category. This is more in line with the goal of introducing it as a
>   plumbing command for now. Thanks to a suggestion from Dscho.

I do want to eventually make it a porcelain, but I think it's pretty
far from that in its current state, so this is a good change.

> * In patch 6/14 (replay: change rev walking options) the commit
>   message has been improved, including its subject, to better match
>   and explain what the patch does.

This (and multiple other changes I elided) are good; thanks for
pushing forward on this.

>   Also instead of forcing reverse
>   order we use the reverse order by default but allow it to be changed
>   using `--reverse`. Thanks to Dscho.

I can see why this might sometimes be useful for exclusively linear
history, but it seems to open a can of worms and possibly unfixable
corner cases for non-linear history.  I'd rather not do this, or at
least pull it out of this series and let us discuss it in some follow
up series.  There are some other alternatives that might handle such
usecases better.

>  6:  ec51351889 !  6:  37d545d5d6 replay: don't simplify history
...
>     +    We want the command to work from older commits to newer ones by default,
>     +    but we are Ok with letting users reverse that, using --reverse, if that's
>     +    what they really want.

As noted above, _I_ am not ok with this yet.  Given the patch
prominently bears my name, the "we" here at a minimum is wrong.  I
would rather leave this change out for now and discuss it for a
follow-on series.

>     @@ Documentation/git-replay.txt (new)
>      +
>      +NAME
>      +----
>     -+git-replay - Replay commits on a different base, without touching working tree
>     ++git-replay - Replay commits on a new base, works on bare repos too

really minor point: "works on" or "works in" or "works with" ?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-29  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 208+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-07  7:24 [PATCH 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 01/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 02/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 03/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 04/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 05/14] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 06/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 07/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 08/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 09/14] replay: very coarse worktree updating Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-04-14 14:09   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-14 14:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-15 19:07       ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-16  5:28         ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-17 14:05         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-18  5:54           ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-18 13:10             ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-20  4:53               ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-20 13:44                 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-23  1:18                   ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-24 15:23                     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-30  6:45                       ` Elijah Newren
2023-09-03 15:47                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-09-07  8:39                           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:22                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-17 15:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-18  5:58           ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-18  4:58       ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-15 18:30     ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 12/14] replay: introduce guess_new_base() Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 13/14] replay: add different modes Christian Couder
2023-04-07  7:24 ` [PATCH 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-04-14 10:12 ` [PATCH 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Phillip Wood
2023-04-15 17:18   ` Elijah Newren
2023-04-14 17:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-04-15  6:44 ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] " Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:25     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:26     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 17:53   ` [PATCH v2 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:26     ` Elijah Newren
2023-05-09 22:28   ` [PATCH v2 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Junio C Hamano
2023-05-10  7:33     ` Christian Couder
2023-05-16  4:42   ` Elijah Newren
2023-06-02 10:25   ` [PATCH v3 " Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:01       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:32         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:03       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:32         ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07 21:02           ` Dragan Simic
2023-10-10 12:44             ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 14:02               ` Dragan Simic
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-07-25 21:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-09-07  8:33         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:05       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:35         ` Christian Couder
2023-07-25 21:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-09-07  8:35         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-06-22 10:10       ` Toon Claes
2023-09-07  8:37         ` Christian Couder
2023-06-02 10:25     ` [PATCH v3 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-06-03  1:42     ` [PATCH v3 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Junio C Hamano
2023-06-05  7:11       ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25     ` [PATCH v4 " Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 01/15] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 02/15] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:42           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 03/15] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 04/15] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 05/15] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 06/15] replay: don't simplify history Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:43           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 07/15] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 08/15] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 09/15] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 10/15] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 11/15] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:49           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-08 22:55         ` Linus Arver
2023-09-10  3:20           ` Linus Arver
2023-10-10 12:48             ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:48           ` Christian Couder
2023-10-19 19:26             ` Linus Arver
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 12/15] replay: disallow revision specific options and pathspecs Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:49           ` Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 13/15] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 14/15] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-09-07  9:25       ` [PATCH v4 15/15] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-09-07 10:25       ` [PATCH v4 00/15] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-10 12:50         ` Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38       ` [PATCH v5 00/14] " Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-10-19 19:49           ` Linus Arver
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-10-10 12:38         ` [PATCH v5 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-10-26 13:44         ` [PATCH v5 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-29  6:01           ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-02 14:59             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:25               ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-02 15:06           ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:25             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-29  6:00         ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2023-10-29 14:14           ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-10-30 17:18             ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-02 14:44               ` Christian Couder
2023-11-02 14:48           ` Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51         ` [PATCH v6 " Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-02 13:51           ` [PATCH v6 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-07  2:43           ` [PATCH v6 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Elijah Newren
2023-11-07  9:43             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:51               ` Christian Couder
2023-11-08 12:19             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-08 12:47           ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-15 14:46             ` Christian Couder
2023-11-16  8:45               ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-16  8:52                 ` Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33           ` [PATCH v7 " Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-15 14:33             ` [PATCH v7 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-16  8:53             ` [PATCH v7 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin
2023-11-23 19:32               ` Elijah Newren
2023-11-24  0:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-11-24 11:10             ` [PATCH v8 " Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 01/14] t6429: remove switching aspects of fast-rebase Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 02/14] replay: introduce new builtin Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 03/14] replay: start using parse_options API Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 04/14] replay: die() instead of failing assert() Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 05/14] replay: introduce pick_regular_commit() Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 06/14] replay: change rev walking options Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 07/14] replay: add an important FIXME comment about gpg signing Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 08/14] replay: remove progress and info output Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 09/14] replay: remove HEAD related sanity check Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 10/14] replay: make it a minimal server side command Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 11/14] replay: use standard revision ranges Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 12/14] replay: add --advance or 'cherry-pick' mode Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 13/14] replay: add --contained to rebase contained branches Christian Couder
2023-11-24 11:10               ` [PATCH v8 14/14] replay: stop assuming replayed branches do not diverge Christian Couder
2023-11-25  0:02               ` [PATCH v8 00/14] Introduce new `git replay` command Johannes Schindelin

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