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From: Can Guo <cang@codeaurora.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: asutoshd@codeaurora.org, nguyenb@codeaurora.org,
	hongwus@codeaurora.org, ziqichen@codeaurora.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
	Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	Avri Altman <avri.altman@wdc.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Stanley Chu <stanley.chu@mediatek.com>,
	Bean Huo <beanhuo@micron.com>, Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 8/9] scsi: ufs: Update the fast abort path in ufshcd_abort() for PM requests
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 09:34:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <386c2e650232d7a900f5c1bbf98bd5a5@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2fa53602-8968-09e4-60f4-28462d85ae08@acm.org>

Hi Bart,

On 2021-06-17 01:55, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 6/16/21 1:47 AM, Can Guo wrote:
>> On 2021-06-16 12:40, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>> On 6/15/21 9:00 PM, Can Guo wrote:
>>>> 2. And say we want SCSI layer to resubmit PM requests to prevent
>>>> suspend/resume fail, we should keep retrying the PM requests (so
>>>> long as error handler can recover everything successfully),
>>>> meaning we should give them unlimited retries (which I think is a
>>>> bad idea), otherwise (if they have zero retries or limited
>>>> retries), in extreme conditions, what may happen is that error
>>>> handler can recover everything successfully every time, but all
>>>> these retries (say 3) still time out, which block the power
>>>> management for too long (retries * 60 seconds) and, most
>>>> important, when the last retry times out, scsi layer will
>>>> anyways complete the PM request (even we return DID_IMM_RETRY),
>>>> then we end up same - suspend/resume shall run concurrently with
>>>> error handler and we couldn't recover saved PM errors.
>>> 
>>> Hmm ... it is not clear to me why this behavior is considered a
>>> problem?
>> 
>> To me, task abort to PM requests does not worth being treated so
>> differently, after all suspend/resume may fail due to any kinds of
>> UFS errors (as I've explained so many times). My idea is to let PM
>> requests fast fail (60 seconds has passed, a broken device maybe, we
>> have reason to fail it since it is just a passthrough req) and
>> schedule UFS error handler, UFS error handler shall proceed after
>> suspend/resume fails out then start to recover everything in a safe
>> environment. Is this way not working?
> Hi Can,
> 
> Thank you for the clarification. As you probably know the power
> management subsystem serializes runtime power management (RPM) and
> system suspend callbacks. I was concerned about the consequences of a
> failed RPM transition on system suspend and resume. Having taken a
> closer look at the UFS driver, I see that failed RPM transitions do not
> require special handling in the system suspend or resume callbacks. In
> other words, I'm fine with the approach of failing PM requests fast.
> 

Thank you for your time and efforts spent on this series, I will upload
next version to address your previous comments (hope I can convince 
Trilok
to pick these up).

Thanks,

Can Guo.

> Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-23  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-10  4:43 [PATCH v3 0/9] Complementary changes for error handling Can Guo
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] scsi: ufs: Differentiate status between hba pm ops and wl pm ops Can Guo
2021-06-10 11:15   ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-11  0:53     ` Can Guo
2021-06-11 20:40   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12  6:20     ` Can Guo
2021-06-16 17:50   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-23  1:32     ` Can Guo
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] scsi: ufs: Update the return value of supplier " Can Guo
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] scsi: ufs: Enable IRQ after enabling clocks in error handling preparation Can Guo
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] scsi: ufs: Complete the cmd before returning in queuecommand Can Guo
2021-06-11 20:52   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12  7:38     ` Can Guo
2021-06-12 15:50       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-13 13:30         ` Can Guo
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] scsi: ufs: Simplify error handling preparation Can Guo
2021-06-10 12:30   ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-11  3:01     ` Can Guo
2021-06-11 20:58       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12  6:46         ` Can Guo
2021-06-12  9:49           ` Can Guo
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] scsi: ufs: Update ufshcd_recover_pm_error() Can Guo
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] scsi: ufs: Let host_sem cover the entire system suspend/resume Can Guo
2021-06-10 13:32   ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-11  3:06     ` Can Guo
2021-06-11 21:00   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12  6:46     ` Can Guo
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] scsi: ufs: Update the fast abort path in ufshcd_abort() for PM requests Can Guo
2021-06-11 21:02   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12  7:07     ` Can Guo
2021-06-12 16:50       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-13 14:42         ` Can Guo
2021-06-14 18:49           ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-15  2:36             ` Can Guo
2021-06-15  3:17               ` Can Guo
2021-06-15 18:25               ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-16  4:00                 ` Can Guo
2021-06-16  4:40                   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-16  8:47                     ` Can Guo
2021-06-16 17:55                       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-23  1:34                         ` Can Guo [this message]
2021-06-10  4:43 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] scsi: ufs: Apply more limitations to user access Can Guo
2021-06-11 21:03   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12  7:13     ` Can Guo

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