From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Can Guo <cang@codeaurora.org>
Cc: asutoshd@codeaurora.org, nguyenb@codeaurora.org,
hongwus@codeaurora.org, ziqichen@codeaurora.org,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
Avri Altman <avri.altman@wdc.com>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Stanley Chu <stanley.chu@mediatek.com>,
Bean Huo <beanhuo@micron.com>, Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 8/9] scsi: ufs: Update the fast abort path in ufshcd_abort() for PM requests
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:40:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0081ad7c-8a15-62bb-0e6a-82552aab5309@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8aae95071b9ab3c0a3cab91d1ae138e1@codeaurora.org>
On 6/15/21 9:00 PM, Can Guo wrote:
> I would like to stick to my way as of now because
>
> 1. Merely preventing task abort cannot prevent suspend/resume fail.
> Task abort (to PM requests), in real cases, is just one of many kinds
> of failure which can fail the suspend/resume callbacks. During
> suspend/resume, if AH8 error and/or UIC errors happen, IRQ handler
> may complete SSU cmd with errors and schedule the error handler (I've
> seen such scenarios in real customer cases). My idea is to treat task
> abort (to PM requests) as a failure (let scsi_execute() return with
> whatever error) and let error handler recover everything just like
> any other UFS errors which invoke error handler. In case this, again,
> goes back to the topic that is why don't just do error recovery in
> suspend/resume, let me paste my previous reply here -
Does this mean that the IRQ handler can complete an SSU command with an
error and that the error handler can later recover from that error? That
sounds completely wrong to me. The IRQ handler should never complete any
command with an error if that error could be recoverable. Instead, the
IRQ handler should add that command to a list and leave it to the error
handler to fail that command or to retry it.
> 2. And say we want SCSI layer to resubmit PM requests to prevent
> suspend/resume fail, we should keep retrying the PM requests (so
> long as error handler can recover everything successfully), meaning
> we should give them unlimited retries (which I think is a bad idea),
> otherwise (if they have zero retries or limited retries), in extreme
> conditions, what may happen is that error handler can recover everything
> successfully every time, but all these retries (say 3) still time out,
> which block the power management for too long (retries * 60 seconds) and,
> most important, when the last retry times out, scsi layer will anyways
> complete the PM request (even we return DID_IMM_RETRY), then we end up
> same - suspend/resume shall run concurrently with error handler and we
> couldn't recover saved PM errors.
Hmm ... it is not clear to me why this behavior is considered a problem?
What is wrong with blocking RPM while a START STOP UNIT command is being
processed? If there are UFS devices for which it takes long to process
that command I think it is up to the vendors of these devices to fix
these UFS devices.
Additionally, if a UFS device needs more than (retries * 60 seconds) to
process a START STOP UNIT command, shouldn't it be marked as broken?
Thanks,
Bart.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-16 4:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-10 4:43 [PATCH v3 0/9] Complementary changes for error handling Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] scsi: ufs: Differentiate status between hba pm ops and wl pm ops Can Guo
2021-06-10 11:15 ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-11 0:53 ` Can Guo
2021-06-11 20:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12 6:20 ` Can Guo
2021-06-16 17:50 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-23 1:32 ` Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] scsi: ufs: Update the return value of supplier " Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] scsi: ufs: Enable IRQ after enabling clocks in error handling preparation Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] scsi: ufs: Complete the cmd before returning in queuecommand Can Guo
2021-06-11 20:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12 7:38 ` Can Guo
2021-06-12 15:50 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-13 13:30 ` Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] scsi: ufs: Simplify error handling preparation Can Guo
2021-06-10 12:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-11 3:01 ` Can Guo
2021-06-11 20:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12 6:46 ` Can Guo
2021-06-12 9:49 ` Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] scsi: ufs: Update ufshcd_recover_pm_error() Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] scsi: ufs: Let host_sem cover the entire system suspend/resume Can Guo
2021-06-10 13:32 ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-11 3:06 ` Can Guo
2021-06-11 21:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12 6:46 ` Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] scsi: ufs: Update the fast abort path in ufshcd_abort() for PM requests Can Guo
2021-06-11 21:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12 7:07 ` Can Guo
2021-06-12 16:50 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-13 14:42 ` Can Guo
2021-06-14 18:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-15 2:36 ` Can Guo
2021-06-15 3:17 ` Can Guo
2021-06-15 18:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-16 4:00 ` Can Guo
2021-06-16 4:40 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2021-06-16 8:47 ` Can Guo
2021-06-16 17:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-23 1:34 ` Can Guo
2021-06-10 4:43 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] scsi: ufs: Apply more limitations to user access Can Guo
2021-06-11 21:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-12 7:13 ` Can Guo
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