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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] vfio/type1: Flush CPU caches on DMA pages in non-coherent domains
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 14:11:17 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240517171117.GB20229@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240516143159.0416d6c7.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 02:31:59PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:

> Yes, exactly.  Zero'ing the page would obviously reestablish the
> coherency, but the page could be reallocated without being zero'd and as
> you describe the owner of that page could then get inconsistent
> results.  

I think if we care about the performance of this stuff enough to try
and remove flushes we'd be better off figuring out how to disable no
snoop in PCI config space and trust the device not to use it and avoid
these flushes.

iommu enforcement is nice, but at least ARM has been assuming that the
PCI config space bit is sufficient.

Intel/AMD are probably fine here as they will only flush for weird GPU
cases, but I expect ARM is going to be unhappy.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-17 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07  6:18 [PATCH 0/5] Enforce CPU cache flush for non-coherent device assignment Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:19 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/pat: Let pat_pfn_immune_to_uc_mtrr() check MTRR for untracked PAT range Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:26   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:12     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-08 22:14       ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-09  3:36         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  7:42       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16 14:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20  2:36           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  6:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] KVM: x86/mmu: Fine-grained check of whether a invalid & RAM PFN is MMIO Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:39   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:19     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/mm: Introduce and export interface arch_clean_nonsnoop_dma() Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:40     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-20 14:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-21 15:49     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 16:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:41         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-28  6:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-01 19:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-07  6:21 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio/type1: Flush CPU caches on DMA pages in non-coherent domains Yan Zhao
2024-05-09 18:10   ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-10 10:31     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-10 16:57       ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-13  7:11         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  7:53           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16  8:34           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16 20:31             ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17 17:11               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-05-20  2:52                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-21 16:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 16:21                     ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-21 16:34                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 18:19                         ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-21 18:37                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  6:24                             ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-22 12:29                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 14:43                                 ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-22 16:52                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 18:22                                     ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-22 23:26                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-22 23:32                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 23:40                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-23 14:58                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-23 22:47                                         ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-24  0:30                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 13:50                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:33                           ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22  3:24                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22 12:26                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-24  3:07                             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16 20:50           ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17  3:11             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-17  4:44               ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17  5:00                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:22 ` [PATCH 5/5] iommufd: " Yan Zhao
2024-05-09 14:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-10  8:03     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-10 13:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13  7:43         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-14 15:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-15  7:06             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-15 20:43               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-16  2:32                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  8:38                   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16  9:48                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-17 17:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-20  2:45                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-21 16:04                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:17                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22  6:29                           ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22 17:01                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-27  7:15                               ` Yan Zhao
2024-06-01 16:48                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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