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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Matthieu Moy <matthieu.moy@univ-lyon1.fr>
Subject: Re: Can we clarify the purpose of `git diff -s`?
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 11:27:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq5y8ywwo9.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lehu219c.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> (Sergey Organov's message of "Thu, 11 May 2023 21:04:15 +0300")

Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com> writes:

> I wonder, why this intention of the author has not been opposed at that
> time is beyond my understanding, sorry! What exactly did it bring to
> make --no-patch a synonym for -s? Not only it's illogical, it's even not
> useful as being more lengthy.

Probably because we wanted to have a more descriptive synonym to
make it discoverable [*].  The release notes for v1.8.4 (where
"--no-patch" was added as a synonym for "-s") tells us this much.

 * "git show -s" was less discoverable than it should have been.  It
    now has a natural synonym "git show --no-patch".

In hindsight, "--silent" or "--squelch" might also have been viable
choices, but if you really care, you have to ask Matthieu why
"--no-patch" was chosen.  If I have to guess, it came from the
desire to phrase it as "--no-<something>", which some commands had
started to adopt as a convention to defeat "<something>" between
v1.7.0 and v1.8.4 (the latter is where "--no-patch" appeared), and
"--no-everything" is awkward to be used with "git show" as we still
want to see the commit message.

> Why somebody would use --no-patch instead of -s when she means -s?

Because "-s" does not have a longhand and not easily discoverable?
As I explained above, I thing that was the original motivation
behind wanting to have _some_ synonym.


[Footnote]

* In fact, I was surprised that somebody (I forgot who they were),
  who I have known to be a user of git for 10+ years, wrote
  "--no-patch" in an example in one of their recent messages,
  outside the context of, and I strongly suspect that it happened
  before, this "-s" vs "--no-patch" discussion.  I took it to be
  showing their preference of "--no-patch" over "-s", or their not
  knowing about "-s" even they are a long-time Git user.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-11 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-11  3:14 Can we clarify the purpose of `git diff -s`? Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11 11:59 ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-11 16:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-11 17:37   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-11 18:04     ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-11 18:27       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2023-05-11 18:36       ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11 18:17     ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11 17:41   ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11 18:31     ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-11 19:10       ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11 19:32         ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-11 19:54           ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11 20:24             ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-11 20:59               ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-11 22:49                 ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-11 23:28                   ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-12  8:40                     ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-12 19:19                       ` Felipe Contreras
     [not found]   ` <5bb24e0208dd4a8ca5f6697d578f3ae0@SAMBXP02.univ-lyon1.fr>
2023-05-12  8:15     ` Matthieu Moy
2023-05-12 17:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-12 18:21         ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-12 19:21           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-12 19:34             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-12 20:28             ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-12 20:47               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-12 21:01                 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-12 21:47                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-12 21:48                     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-12 23:21                     ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-12 21:41                 ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-12 22:17                   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-12 22:47                     ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-12 23:07                   ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-13 14:58                     ` Philip Oakley
2023-05-13 17:45                       ` Sergey Organov
2023-05-12 19:47           ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-12 19:34         ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-12 19:17       ` Felipe Contreras

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