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From: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Ramsay Jones <ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:05:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e57b2272-b269-b705-3d42-d32e0b410f03@github.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230622222637.2045705-1-jonathantanmy@google.com>

On 6/22/2023 6:26 PM, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
>>> I wonder if we want to mention what the undesired misbehaviour the
>>> "bug" causes and what we do to avoid getting affected by the bug
>>> here.  If we can say something like "When querying for a pathname
>>> with a byte with high-bit set, the buggy filter may produce false
>>> negative, making the filter unusable, but asking for a pathname
>>> without such a byte produces no false negatives (even though we may
>>> get false positives).  When Git reads version 1 filter data, it
>>> refrains from using it for processing paths with high-bit set to
>>> avoid triggering the bug", then it would be ideal.
>>
>> Your description of the bug matches my understanding of the issue, that
>> a corrupt filter would produce false negatives and thus be unusable.
>>
>> I skimmed through the rest of the series, and couldn't find a spot where
>> we do the latter, i.e. still use v1 filters as long as we don't have any
>> characters in the path with high-order bits set.
>>
>> I think this would be as simple as modifying the Bloom filter query
>> function to return "maybe" before even trying to hash a path with at
>> least one character with its high-bit set.
>>
>> Apologies if this functionality is implemented and I just missed it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Taylor
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion - yeah, this might work.

If I understand the situation correctly, the high bits can make the
hashes "not very random" but they are still effective at identifying
the "maybe" case consistently for the inputs it is given (it would not
present a "no" when it should not, but it might say "maybe" more often
than it should). The behavior is only incorrect if the same commit-graph
file is used with two different Git versions that were compiled with
different signed-ness.

If that is the case, then ignoring the Bloom filters when you see a
high bit would change the performance implication from "probably
slower" to "definitely slower" but not affect the correctness in a
system that doesn't have competing Git versions with different
compiler semantics.

That is to say, doing this extra work doesn't seem to be critical to
making this change. The ROI seems too low.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-23 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22 21:48 [PATCH 0/2] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Jonathan Tan
2023-05-22 21:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] t4216: test wrong bloom filter version rejection Jonathan Tan
2023-05-22 21:48 ` [PATCH 2/2] commit-graph: fix murmur3, bump filter ver. to 2 Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23 13:00   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-05-23 23:00     ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23 23:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-24 21:26       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-26 13:19         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-05-30 17:26           ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23  4:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-05-31 23:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-03  1:01   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-03  2:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-07 16:30       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-07 21:37         ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:52     ` Ramsay Jones
2023-06-12 21:26       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-08 19:21   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:50   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Ramsay Jones
2023-06-09  0:08     ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-12 21:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 17:16       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:29         ` [PATCH] CodingGuidelines: use octal escapes, not hex Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 18:16           ` Eric Sunshine
2023-06-13 18:43             ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 19:15               ` Eric Sunshine
2023-06-13 19:29                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 19:16         ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 " Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:39   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 21:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-20 13:22       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-21 12:08       ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-22 22:26         ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-23 13:05           ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2023-06-13 17:39   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:39   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-06-20 13:28     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-21 12:14     ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-13 17:39   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-20 13:39     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-20 18:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 19:21   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-20 13:43     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-20 21:56       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-21 12:19       ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-21 17:53         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-22 22:27           ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-23 13:18             ` Derrick Stolee
2023-07-13 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 " Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 21:42   ` [PATCH v5 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 17:25     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 20:20       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-21  1:38         ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 21:42   ` [PATCH v5 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 22:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-19 17:27       ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55         ` [PATCH 0/4] commit-graph: avoid looking at Bloom filter data directly Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55           ` [PATCH 1/4] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55           ` [PATCH 2/4] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55           ` [PATCH 3/4] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55           ` [PATCH 4/4] fixup! t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 19:24           ` [PATCH 0/4] commit-graph: avoid looking at Bloom filter data directly Junio C Hamano
2023-07-20 20:22           ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 21:42   ` [PATCH v5 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 18:10     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 20:42       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:02         ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 21:42   ` [PATCH v5 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 18:24     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:27       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:32         ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 22:16   ` [PATCH v5 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-07-13 22:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-14 18:48     ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] " Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 1/7] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 2/7] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:26     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 3/7] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 4/7] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 5/7] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:28     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 6/7] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 7/7] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-07-25 20:52   ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-07-26 20:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-27  0:17     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27  0:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-27 17:39         ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-27 17:56           ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27 20:53             ` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:08               ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-01 18:52                 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-03  0:01                 ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-03 13:18                   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-03 18:45                     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27 18:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 " Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 1/7] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 2/7] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 3/7] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 4/7] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 5/7] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 6/7] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 7/7] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:44   ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-08-01 20:58     ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-01 21:07       ` Junio C Hamano

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