From: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, me@ttaylorr.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] commit-graph: fix murmur3, bump filter ver. to 2
Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 09:19:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4d22518-d3e6-76aa-fe94-2ec77a1de96a@github.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230524212657.1348621-1-jonathantanmy@google.com>
On 5/24/2023 5:26 PM, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
>> IOW, even if the version of Git is
>> capable of writing and reading v2, it does not have to use v2,
>> right? To put it the other way around, we will have to and can keep
>> supporting data that is labeled as v1, no?
>
> I think this is the main point - whether we want to continue supporting
> data labeled as v1. I personally think that we should migrate to v2
> as quickly as possible. But if the consensus is that we should support
> both, at least for a few releases of Git, I'll go with that.
I agree on migrating quickly as possible, within basic safety guidelines.
Shipping a Git change that suddenly is unable to use on-disk data that
it has previously relied upon is not a safe change. And that is the
absolute minimum amount of safety required. The other side is to not
make a Git change that suddenly changes the on-disk format without a
switch to disable it.
Think about it this way: if there was a bug in the code, could we
safely roll it back? If we are immediately writing v2 filters after
the deployment, then rolling it back will cause the previous version
to not recognize those filters, leading to a delayed recovery.
I'd be willing to modify my suggested steps:
>>> 1. v2.42.0 includes writing v2 format, off by default.
>>> 2. v2.43.0 writes v2 format by default.
>>> 3. v2.44.0 no longer parses v1 format (ignored without error).
to something simpler:
1. v2.42.0 writes v2 format by default, but can be disabled by config.
2. v2.43.0 no longer parses or writes v1 format.
With this, we could proactively set the config value that disables the
v2 format in our production environment, then slowly re-enable that
config after the binaries have deployed. This allows us to limit the
blast radius if something goes wrong, which is really important.
Further, I'm describing an environment where we control all of the Git
versions that are interacting with the repositories. Other environments
don't have that luxury, such as typical client users.
Even the three-version plan is an accelerated deprecation plan, based
on previous examples in Git.
Thanks,
-Stolee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-26 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-22 21:48 [PATCH 0/2] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Jonathan Tan
2023-05-22 21:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] t4216: test wrong bloom filter version rejection Jonathan Tan
2023-05-22 21:48 ` [PATCH 2/2] commit-graph: fix murmur3, bump filter ver. to 2 Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23 13:00 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-05-23 23:00 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23 23:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-24 21:26 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-26 13:19 ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2023-05-30 17:26 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23 4:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-05-31 23:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-03 1:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-03 2:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-07 16:30 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-07 21:37 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:52 ` Ramsay Jones
2023-06-12 21:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-08 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:50 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Ramsay Jones
2023-06-09 0:08 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-12 21:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 17:16 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:29 ` [PATCH] CodingGuidelines: use octal escapes, not hex Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 18:16 ` Eric Sunshine
2023-06-13 18:43 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 19:15 ` Eric Sunshine
2023-06-13 19:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 19:16 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 " Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 21:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-20 13:22 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-21 12:08 ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-22 22:26 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-23 13:05 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-13 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-06-20 13:28 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-21 12:14 ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-13 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-20 13:39 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-20 18:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 19:21 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-20 13:43 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-20 21:56 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-21 12:19 ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-21 17:53 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-22 22:27 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-23 13:18 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-07-13 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 " Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 17:25 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 20:20 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-21 1:38 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 22:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-19 17:27 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55 ` [PATCH 0/4] commit-graph: avoid looking at Bloom filter data directly Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55 ` [PATCH 1/4] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55 ` [PATCH 2/4] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55 ` [PATCH 3/4] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55 ` [PATCH 4/4] fixup! t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 19:24 ` [PATCH 0/4] commit-graph: avoid looking at Bloom filter data directly Junio C Hamano
2023-07-20 20:22 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 18:10 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 20:42 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:02 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 18:24 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:27 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:32 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 22:16 ` [PATCH v5 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-07-13 22:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-14 18:48 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] " Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:26 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:28 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-07-25 20:52 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-07-26 20:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-27 0:17 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27 0:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-27 17:39 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-27 17:56 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27 20:53 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:08 ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-01 18:52 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-03 0:01 ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-03 13:18 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-03 18:45 ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27 18:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 " Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:44 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-08-01 20:58 ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-01 21:07 ` Junio C Hamano
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