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From: "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>
To: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>
Cc: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Dedicated kernel bug database
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:32:13 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0212191229380.30841-100000@dragon.pdx.osdl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021219201811.GA7715@suse.de>

[cc list trimmed]

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Dave Jones wrote:

| On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 07:52:29PM +0000, John Bradford wrote:
|  > > I also don't trust things like this where if something goes wrong,
|  > > we could lose the bug report.
|  > How?  I don't see as that is more likely than with Bugzilla.
|
| user submits bug report
| robot rejects it
| user reads rejection, gets confused, gives up.
|
|  > Anyway, loads of LKML posts get ignored, and nobody seems to worry about it :-).
|
| Point to one important posting thats been ignored in recent times.
| More likely they weren't ignored, it was just deemed irrelevant,
| unimportant, or lacked information detailing how important the problem
| was.

It can be difficult to tell the difference.

| Besides, this is one area where bugzilla is helping.
| If I ignored/missed an agp related bug report on linux kernel,
| and the same user also filed it in bugzilla, I'll get pestered
| about it automatically later.
|
|  > I don't see any way of making Bugzilla do all the things I described
|  > originally, specifically the advanced tracking of versions tested.
|
| I still think you're solving a non-problem. Of the 180 or so bugs so
| far, there has been _1_ vendor kernel report. 1 2.4 report. and
| 1 (maybe 2)  undecoded oopses (which were subsequently decoded less
| than 24hrs later.
|
|  > That could help to find duplicates, which is a big problem when you
|  > have 1000+ bugs.
|
| In an ideal world, we'd never have that many open bugs 8-)
| Realistically, I check bugzilla a few times a day, I notice
| when something new has been added. Near the end of each week
| I[*] go through every remaining open bug looking to see if there's
| something additional that can be added / pinging old reporters /
| closing dead bugs. Dupes usually stand out doing this.
| How exactly do you plan to automate dupe detection ?
| You can't even do things like comparing oops dumps, as they
| may have been triggered in different ways,.
|
| 		Dave
|
| [*] and hopefully, I'm not the only one who does this.

Yes, I go thru them fairly often also, looking for patches or to apply some
patches to close some if possible.
I hope we aren't the only ones...

-- 
~Randy


  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-19 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-19 13:35 Dedicated kernel bug database John Bradford
2002-12-19 17:33 ` Brian Jackson
2002-12-20  3:26   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-19 17:48 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 18:49   ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19 19:49     ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:12       ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:24         ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:45           ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 19:52     ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:18       ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19 20:32         ` Randy.Dunlap [this message]
2002-12-19 20:42         ` John Bradford
2002-12-20  3:40           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  9:48             ` John Bradford
2002-12-20 10:40               ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 16:08               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  3:35     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 17:32       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-19 20:09 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-12-19 20:32   ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:11     ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2002-12-19 21:40       ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:32         ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 21:55           ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:57             ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 21:55               ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 22:45               ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  1:39                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  2:01                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:20                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 15:09                       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-20 23:52                         ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-21  3:30                           ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-20 10:35                     ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 19:37                       ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:10                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:22                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  2:58                       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-20  3:21                         ` Martin J. Bligh
     [not found]                   ` <31080000.1040418947@w-hlinder>
2002-12-20 21:43                     ` Dedicated kernel bug database + documentaion Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 21:59                       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-20 22:01                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 21:59                       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-21  2:52                     ` Dedicated kernel bug database Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-21  3:27                       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-30 21:58                         ` Hanna Linder
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1040338801.24520.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-12-19 23:59                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-20  0:19                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  0:24                     ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-20  1:01                       ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 10:32                         ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 10:41                           ` Russell King
2002-12-20 10:30                     ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 15:43                       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 22:23             ` Stephen Wille Padnos
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-19 17:46 Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 18:00 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 18:08   ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:08     ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:38       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:59         ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:14           ` Eli Carter
2002-12-20 14:23           ` Horst von Brand
2002-12-19 22:05         ` Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 22:26         ` Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 23:09           ` John Bradford
     [not found] <2CC936747EA1284DA378A18D730697420158A50E@exchacad.ms.gettysburg.edu>
2002-12-19 20:33 ` Justin Pryzby
2002-12-19 21:04 Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-12-20  2:26 Dan Kegel
2002-12-20 11:18 Nicolas Mailhot
2002-12-22  2:50 Hell.Surfers
2002-12-22  9:16 ` John Bradford
2002-12-22 18:53 Adam J. Richter

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