From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: dank@kegel.com (Dan Kegel)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Dedicated kernel bug database
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:00:03 +0000 (GMT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200212191800.gBJI03ZT002284@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E020604.80703@kegel.com> from "Dan Kegel" at Dec 19, 2002 09:46:44 AM
> > Following on from yesterday's discussion about there not being much
> > interaction between the kernel Bugzilla and the developers, I began
> > wondering whether Bugzilla might be a bit too generic to be suited to
> > kernel development, and that maybe a system written from the ground up
> > for reporting kernel bugs would be better?
> >
> > I.E. I am prepared to write it myself, if people think it's
> > worthwhile.
>
> Quoting Linus
> (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=103911905214446&w=2):
> > And many things _can_ be done without throwing out old designs.
> > Implementation improvements are quite possible without trying to make
> > something totally new to the outside. ...
> >
> > Not throwing out the baby with the bath-water doesn't mean that you cannot
> > improve the system. I'm only arguing against stupid people who think they
> > need a revolution to improve - most real improvements are evolutionary.
True, but there is always a point where you have to say, "This isn't
working, we need to re-write it". Coding by cutting and pasting
existing code is not a great idea.
> I bet the thing to do is to spend some time as one of the
> elves who make bugzilla.kernel.org work smoothly despite
> the software; then figure out what incremental tweak you
> can make to the software to make the elves' and users' lives
> better.
I am not prepared to start editing the existing Bugzilla code - there
is nothing about it that I think it right at the moment. I could
write a better bug tracking database in a couple of weeks if I wanted
to.
John.
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-12-19 17:46 Dedicated kernel bug database Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 18:00 ` John Bradford [this message]
2002-12-19 18:08 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:08 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:38 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:59 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:14 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-20 14:23 ` Horst von Brand
2002-12-19 22:05 ` Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 22:26 ` Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 23:09 ` John Bradford
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2002-12-22 18:53 Adam J. Richter
2002-12-22 2:50 Hell.Surfers
2002-12-22 9:16 ` John Bradford
2002-12-20 11:18 Nicolas Mailhot
2002-12-20 2:26 Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 21:04 Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
[not found] <2CC936747EA1284DA378A18D730697420158A50E@exchacad.ms.gettysburg.edu>
2002-12-19 20:33 ` Justin Pryzby
2002-12-19 13:35 John Bradford
2002-12-19 17:33 ` Brian Jackson
2002-12-20 3:26 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-19 17:48 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 18:49 ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19 19:49 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:12 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:24 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:45 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 19:52 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:18 ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19 20:32 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 20:42 ` John Bradford
2002-12-20 3:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 9:48 ` John Bradford
2002-12-20 10:40 ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 16:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 3:35 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 17:32 ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-19 20:09 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-12-19 20:32 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:11 ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2002-12-19 21:40 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:32 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 21:55 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:57 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 21:55 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 22:45 ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 1:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 2:01 ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 2:20 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 15:09 ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-20 23:52 ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-21 3:30 ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-20 10:35 ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 19:37 ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 2:10 ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 2:22 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 2:58 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-20 3:21 ` Martin J. Bligh
[not found] ` <31080000.1040418947@w-hlinder>
2002-12-21 2:52 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-21 3:27 ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-30 21:58 ` Hanna Linder
[not found] ` <mailman.1040338801.24520.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-12-19 23:59 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-20 0:19 ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 0:24 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-20 1:01 ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 10:32 ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 10:41 ` Russell King
2002-12-20 10:30 ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 15:43 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 22:23 ` Stephen Wille Padnos
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