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From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: davej@codemonkey.org.uk, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	lm@bitmover.com, lm@work.bitmover.com, torvalds@transmeta.com,
	vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl, akpm@digeo.com
Subject: Dedicated kernel bug database
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:35:27 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200212191335.gBJDZRDL000704@darkstar.example.net> (raw)

Following on from yesterday's discussion about there not being much
interaction between the kernel Bugzilla and the developers, I began
wondering whether Bugzilla might be a bit too generic to be suited to
kernel development, and that maybe a system written from the ground up
for reporting kernel bugs would be better?

I.E. I am prepared to write it myself, if people think it's
worthwhile.

For example, we get a lot of posts on LKML like this:

"Hi, foobar doesn't work in 2.4.19"

Now, does that mean:

* The bug first appeared in 2.4.19, and is still in 2.4.20
* The bug reporter hasn't tested 2.4.20
* The bug reporter can't test 2.4.20 because something else is broken
* The bug actually first appeared in 2.4.10, but it didn't irritate
  them enough to complain until now.

A bug database designed from scratch could allow such information to
be indexed in a way that could be processed and searched usefully.  A
list of tick-boxes for worked/didn't work/didn't test/couldn't test
for several kernel versions could be presented.

Also, we could have a non-web interface, (telnet or gopher to the bug
DB, or control it by E-Mail).

It could warn the user if they attach an un-decoded oops that their
bug report isn't as useful as it could be, and if they mention a
distribution kernel version, that it's not a tree that the developers
will necessarily be familiar with.

I'm not criticising the fact that we've got Bugzilla up and running,
but just pointing out that we could do better, (and I'm prepared to
put in the time and effort).  I just need ideas, really.

John.

             reply	other threads:[~2002-12-19 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-19 13:35 John Bradford [this message]
2002-12-19 17:33 ` Dedicated kernel bug database Brian Jackson
2002-12-20  3:26   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-19 17:48 ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 18:49   ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19 19:49     ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:12       ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:24         ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:45           ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 19:52     ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:18       ` Dave Jones
2002-12-19 20:32         ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 20:42         ` John Bradford
2002-12-20  3:40           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  9:48             ` John Bradford
2002-12-20 10:40               ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 16:08               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  3:35     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 17:32       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-19 20:09 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-12-19 20:32   ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:11     ` Stephen Wille Padnos
2002-12-19 21:40       ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:32         ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 21:55           ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:57             ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 21:55               ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-19 22:45               ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  1:39                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  2:01                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:20                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 15:09                       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-20 23:52                         ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-21  3:30                           ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-20 10:35                     ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 19:37                       ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:10                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  2:22                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20  2:58                       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-20  3:21                         ` Martin J. Bligh
     [not found]                   ` <31080000.1040418947@w-hlinder>
2002-12-20 21:43                     ` Dedicated kernel bug database + documentaion Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 21:59                       ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-12-20 22:01                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-20 21:59                       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-21  2:52                     ` Dedicated kernel bug database Martin J. Bligh
2002-12-21  3:27                       ` Jon Tollefson
2002-12-30 21:58                         ` Hanna Linder
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1040338801.24520.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-12-19 23:59                 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-20  0:19                   ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20  0:24                     ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-20  1:01                       ` Hanna Linder
2002-12-20 10:32                         ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 10:41                           ` Russell King
2002-12-20 10:30                     ` Dave Jones
2002-12-20 15:43                       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 22:23             ` Stephen Wille Padnos
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-19 17:46 Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 18:00 ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 18:08   ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:08     ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 20:38       ` Eli Carter
2002-12-19 20:59         ` John Bradford
2002-12-19 21:14           ` Eli Carter
2002-12-20 14:23           ` Horst von Brand
2002-12-19 22:05         ` Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 22:26         ` Dan Kegel
2002-12-19 23:09           ` John Bradford
     [not found] <2CC936747EA1284DA378A18D730697420158A50E@exchacad.ms.gettysburg.edu>
2002-12-19 20:33 ` Justin Pryzby
2002-12-19 21:04 Heater, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, VMIC)
2002-12-20  2:26 Dan Kegel
2002-12-20 11:18 Nicolas Mailhot
2002-12-22  2:50 Hell.Surfers
2002-12-22  9:16 ` John Bradford
2002-12-22 18:53 Adam J. Richter

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