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From: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: "Stefan O'Rear" <sorear@fastmail.com>,
	"Pu Lehui" <pulehui@huaweicloud.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@google.com>,
	"Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>, "Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Mykola Lysenko" <mykolal@fb.com>,
	"Manu Bretelle" <chantr4@gmail.com>,
	"Pu Lehui" <pulehui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/5] riscv, bpf: Relax restrictions on Zbb instructions
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 11:23:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240329-linguini-uncured-380cb4cff61c@wendy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240328-ferocity-repose-c554f75a676c@spud>


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On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:07:23PM +0000, Conor Dooley wrote:

> As I said on IRC to you earlier, I think the Kconfig options here are in
> need of a bit of a spring cleaning - they should be modified to explain
> their individual purposes, be that enabling optimisations in the kernel
> or being required for userspace. I'll try to send a patch for that if
> I remember tomorrow.

Something like this:

-- >8 --
commit 5125504beaedd669b082bf74b02003a77360670f
Author: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
Date:   Fri Mar 29 11:13:22 2024 +0000

    RISC-V: clarify what some RISCV_ISA* config options do
    
    During some discussion on IRC yesterday and on Pu's bpf patch [1]
    I noticed that these RISCV_ISA* Kconfig options are not really clear
    about their implications. Many of these options have no impact on what
    userspace is allowed to do, for example an application can use Zbb
    regardless of whether or not the kernel does. Change the help text to
    try and clarify whether or not an option affects just the kernel, or
    also userspace. None of these options actually control whether or not an
    extension is detected dynamically as that's done regardless of Kconfig
    options, so drop any text that implies the option is required for
    dynamic detection, rewording them as "do x when y is detected".
    
    Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20240328-ferocity-repose-c554f75a676c@spud/ [1]
    Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
    ---
    I did this based on top of Samuel's changes dropping the MMU
    requurements just in case, but I don't think there's a conflict:
    https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20240227003630.3634533-4-samuel.holland@sifive.com/

diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
index d8a777f59402..f327a8ac648f 100644
--- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
@@ -501,8 +501,8 @@ config RISCV_ISA_SVNAPOT
 	depends on RISCV_ALTERNATIVE
 	default y
 	help
-	  Allow kernel to detect the Svnapot ISA-extension dynamically at boot
-	  time and enable its usage.
+	  Add support for the Svnapot ISA-extension when it is detected by
+	  the kernel at boot.
 
 	  The Svnapot extension is used to mark contiguous PTEs as a range
 	  of contiguous virtual-to-physical translations for a naturally
@@ -520,9 +520,9 @@ config RISCV_ISA_SVPBMT
 	depends on RISCV_ALTERNATIVE
 	default y
 	help
-	   Adds support to dynamically detect the presence of the Svpbmt
-	   ISA-extension (Supervisor-mode: page-based memory types) and
-	   enable its usage.
+	   Add support for the Svpbmt ISA-extension (Supervisor-mode:
+	   page-based memory types) when it is detected by the kernel at
+	   boot.
 
 	   The memory type for a page contains a combination of attributes
 	   that indicate the cacheability, idempotency, and ordering
@@ -541,14 +541,15 @@ config TOOLCHAIN_HAS_V
 	depends on AS_HAS_OPTION_ARCH
 
 config RISCV_ISA_V
-	bool "VECTOR extension support"
+	bool "Vector extension support"
 	depends on TOOLCHAIN_HAS_V
 	depends on FPU
 	select DYNAMIC_SIGFRAME
 	default y
 	help
 	  Say N here if you want to disable all vector related procedure
-	  in the kernel.
+	  in the kernel. Without this option enabled, neither the kernel nor
+	  userspace may use vector.
 
 	  If you don't know what to do here, say Y.
 
@@ -606,8 +607,8 @@ config RISCV_ISA_ZBB
 	depends on RISCV_ALTERNATIVE
 	default y
 	help
-	   Adds support to dynamically detect the presence of the ZBB
-	   extension (basic bit manipulation) and enable its usage.
+	   Add support for enabling optimisations in the kernel when the
+	   Zbb extension is detected at boot.
 
 	   The Zbb extension provides instructions to accelerate a number
 	   of bit-specific operations (count bit population, sign extending,
@@ -623,9 +624,9 @@ config RISCV_ISA_ZICBOM
 	select RISCV_DMA_NONCOHERENT
 	select DMA_DIRECT_REMAP
 	help
-	   Adds support to dynamically detect the presence of the ZICBOM
-	   extension (Cache Block Management Operations) and enable its
-	   usage.
+	   Add support for the Zicbom extension (Cache Block Management
+	   Operations) and enable its use in the kernel when it is detected
+	   at boot.
 
 	   The Zicbom extension can be used to handle for example
 	   non-coherent DMA support on devices that need it.
@@ -684,7 +685,8 @@ config FPU
 	default y
 	help
 	  Say N here if you want to disable all floating-point related procedure
-	  in the kernel.
+	  in the kernel. Without this option enabled, neither the kernel nor
+	  userspace may use vector.
 
 	  If you don't know what to do here, say Y.
 


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From: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: "Stefan O'Rear" <sorear@fastmail.com>,
	"Pu Lehui" <pulehui@huaweicloud.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@google.com>,
	"Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>, "Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Mykola Lysenko" <mykolal@fb.com>,
	"Manu Bretelle" <chantr4@gmail.com>,
	"Pu Lehui" <pulehui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/5] riscv, bpf: Relax restrictions on Zbb instructions
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 11:23:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240329-linguini-uncured-380cb4cff61c@wendy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240328-ferocity-repose-c554f75a676c@spud>

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On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:07:23PM +0000, Conor Dooley wrote:

> As I said on IRC to you earlier, I think the Kconfig options here are in
> need of a bit of a spring cleaning - they should be modified to explain
> their individual purposes, be that enabling optimisations in the kernel
> or being required for userspace. I'll try to send a patch for that if
> I remember tomorrow.

Something like this:

-- >8 --
commit 5125504beaedd669b082bf74b02003a77360670f
Author: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
Date:   Fri Mar 29 11:13:22 2024 +0000

    RISC-V: clarify what some RISCV_ISA* config options do
    
    During some discussion on IRC yesterday and on Pu's bpf patch [1]
    I noticed that these RISCV_ISA* Kconfig options are not really clear
    about their implications. Many of these options have no impact on what
    userspace is allowed to do, for example an application can use Zbb
    regardless of whether or not the kernel does. Change the help text to
    try and clarify whether or not an option affects just the kernel, or
    also userspace. None of these options actually control whether or not an
    extension is detected dynamically as that's done regardless of Kconfig
    options, so drop any text that implies the option is required for
    dynamic detection, rewording them as "do x when y is detected".
    
    Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20240328-ferocity-repose-c554f75a676c@spud/ [1]
    Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
    ---
    I did this based on top of Samuel's changes dropping the MMU
    requurements just in case, but I don't think there's a conflict:
    https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20240227003630.3634533-4-samuel.holland@sifive.com/

diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
index d8a777f59402..f327a8ac648f 100644
--- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
@@ -501,8 +501,8 @@ config RISCV_ISA_SVNAPOT
 	depends on RISCV_ALTERNATIVE
 	default y
 	help
-	  Allow kernel to detect the Svnapot ISA-extension dynamically at boot
-	  time and enable its usage.
+	  Add support for the Svnapot ISA-extension when it is detected by
+	  the kernel at boot.
 
 	  The Svnapot extension is used to mark contiguous PTEs as a range
 	  of contiguous virtual-to-physical translations for a naturally
@@ -520,9 +520,9 @@ config RISCV_ISA_SVPBMT
 	depends on RISCV_ALTERNATIVE
 	default y
 	help
-	   Adds support to dynamically detect the presence of the Svpbmt
-	   ISA-extension (Supervisor-mode: page-based memory types) and
-	   enable its usage.
+	   Add support for the Svpbmt ISA-extension (Supervisor-mode:
+	   page-based memory types) when it is detected by the kernel at
+	   boot.
 
 	   The memory type for a page contains a combination of attributes
 	   that indicate the cacheability, idempotency, and ordering
@@ -541,14 +541,15 @@ config TOOLCHAIN_HAS_V
 	depends on AS_HAS_OPTION_ARCH
 
 config RISCV_ISA_V
-	bool "VECTOR extension support"
+	bool "Vector extension support"
 	depends on TOOLCHAIN_HAS_V
 	depends on FPU
 	select DYNAMIC_SIGFRAME
 	default y
 	help
 	  Say N here if you want to disable all vector related procedure
-	  in the kernel.
+	  in the kernel. Without this option enabled, neither the kernel nor
+	  userspace may use vector.
 
 	  If you don't know what to do here, say Y.
 
@@ -606,8 +607,8 @@ config RISCV_ISA_ZBB
 	depends on RISCV_ALTERNATIVE
 	default y
 	help
-	   Adds support to dynamically detect the presence of the ZBB
-	   extension (basic bit manipulation) and enable its usage.
+	   Add support for enabling optimisations in the kernel when the
+	   Zbb extension is detected at boot.
 
 	   The Zbb extension provides instructions to accelerate a number
 	   of bit-specific operations (count bit population, sign extending,
@@ -623,9 +624,9 @@ config RISCV_ISA_ZICBOM
 	select RISCV_DMA_NONCOHERENT
 	select DMA_DIRECT_REMAP
 	help
-	   Adds support to dynamically detect the presence of the ZICBOM
-	   extension (Cache Block Management Operations) and enable its
-	   usage.
+	   Add support for the Zicbom extension (Cache Block Management
+	   Operations) and enable its use in the kernel when it is detected
+	   at boot.
 
 	   The Zicbom extension can be used to handle for example
 	   non-coherent DMA support on devices that need it.
@@ -684,7 +685,8 @@ config FPU
 	default y
 	help
 	  Say N here if you want to disable all floating-point related procedure
-	  in the kernel.
+	  in the kernel. Without this option enabled, neither the kernel nor
+	  userspace may use vector.
 
 	  If you don't know what to do here, say Y.
 


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-29 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-28 12:49 [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] Support local vmtest for riscv64 Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49 ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/5] selftests/bpf: Enable cross platform testing for local vmtest Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49   ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/5] riscv, bpf: Relax restrictions on Zbb instructions Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49   ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 19:34   ` Stefan O'Rear
2024-03-28 19:34     ` Stefan O'Rear
2024-03-28 22:07     ` Conor Dooley
2024-03-28 22:07       ` Conor Dooley
2024-03-29 10:05       ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-29 10:05         ` Pu Lehui
2024-04-02 14:25         ` Björn Töpel
2024-04-02 14:25           ` Björn Töpel
2024-04-02 17:38           ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-02 17:38             ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-02 19:00             ` Björn Töpel
2024-04-02 19:00               ` Björn Töpel
2024-04-03  1:20               ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-03  1:20                 ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-03 10:05                 ` Pu Lehui
2024-04-03 10:05                   ` Pu Lehui
2024-04-03 12:29                   ` Conor Dooley
2024-04-03 12:29                     ` Conor Dooley
2024-03-29 11:23       ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2024-03-29 11:23         ` Conor Dooley
2024-03-30 10:19         ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-30 10:19           ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-30 10:19           ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-30 10:19           ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-31 17:49         ` Samuel Holland
2024-03-31 17:49           ` Samuel Holland
2024-04-02 14:18         ` Björn Töpel
2024-04-02 14:18           ` Björn Töpel
2024-04-02 14:27   ` Björn Töpel
2024-04-02 14:27     ` Björn Töpel
2024-04-02 16:03     ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-04-02 16:03       ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-04-03 10:19       ` Pu Lehui
2024-04-03 10:19         ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/5] selftests/bpf: Add config.riscv64 Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49   ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/5] selftests/bpf: Add DENYLIST.riscv64 Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49   ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/5] selftests/bpf: Add riscv64 configurations to local vmtest Pu Lehui
2024-03-28 12:49   ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-29  9:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] Support local vmtest for riscv64 Eduard Zingerman
2024-03-29  9:08   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-03-29 10:10   ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-29 10:10     ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-29 19:46     ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-03-29 19:46       ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-03-30 10:12       ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-30 10:12         ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-30 10:12         ` Pu Lehui
2024-03-30 10:12         ` Pu Lehui
2024-04-02 23:40         ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-04-02 23:40           ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-04-03 10:31           ` Pu Lehui
2024-04-03 10:31             ` Pu Lehui

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