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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/19] arm64: Allow mismatched 32-bit EL0 support
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 12:05:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210604110526.GF2318@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210604093808.GA64162@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 10:38:08AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 06:44:14PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 01:37:15PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 05:47:02PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
> > > > index 338840c00e8e..603bf4160cd6 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
> > > > @@ -630,9 +630,15 @@ static inline bool cpu_supports_mixed_endian_el0(void)
> > > >  	return id_aa64mmfr0_mixed_endian_el0(read_cpuid(ID_AA64MMFR0_EL1));
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > > +const struct cpumask *system_32bit_el0_cpumask(void);
> > > > +DECLARE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(arm64_mismatched_32bit_el0);
> > > > +
> > > >  static inline bool system_supports_32bit_el0(void)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	return cpus_have_const_cap(ARM64_HAS_32BIT_EL0);
> > > > +	u64 pfr0 = read_sanitised_ftr_reg(SYS_ID_AA64PFR0_EL1);
> > > > +
> > > > +	return static_branch_unlikely(&arm64_mismatched_32bit_el0) ||
> > > > +	       id_aa64pfr0_32bit_el0(pfr0);
> > > >  }
> > > 
> > > Note that read_sanitised_ftr_reg() has to do a bsearch() to find the
> > > arm64_ftr_reg, so this will make system_32bit_el0_cpumask() a fair
> > > amount more expensive than it needs to be.
> > 
> > I seriously doubt that it matters, but it did come up before and I proposed
> > a potential solution if it's actually a concern:
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20201202172727.GC29813@willie-the-truck
> > 
> > so if you can show that it's a problem, we can resurrect something like
> > that.
> 
> I'm happy to leave that for future. I raised this because elsewhere this
> is an issue when we need to avoid instrumentation; if that's not a
> concern here on any path then I am not aware of a functional issue.

I can't think of a reason why instrumentation would be an issue for any of
the current callers, but that's a good point to bear in mind.

> > > That said. I reckon this could be much cleaner if we maintained separate
> > > caps:
> > > 
> > > ARM64_ALL_CPUS_HAVE_32BIT_EL0
> > > ARM64_SOME_CPUS_HAVE_32BIT_EL0
> > > 
> > > ... and allow arm64_mismatched_32bit_el0 to be set dependent on
> > > ARM64_SOME_CPUS_HAVE_32BIT_EL0. With that, this can be simplified to:
> > > 
> > > static inline bool system_supports_32bit_el0(void)
> > > {
> > > 	return (cpus_have_const_cap(ARM64_ALL_CPUS_HAVE_32BIT_EL0)) ||
> > > 		static_branch_unlikely(&arm64_mismatched_32bit_el0))
> > 
> > Something similar was discussed in November last year but this falls
> > apart with late onlining because its not generally possible to tell whether
> > you've seen all the CPUs or not.
> 
> Ah; is that for when your boot CPU set is all AArch32-capable, but a
> late-onlined CPU is not?
> 
> I assume that we require at least one of the set of boot CPUs to be
> AArch32 cpable, and don't settle the compat hwcaps after userspace has
> started.

Heh, you assume wrong :)

When we allow the mismatch, then we do actually defer initialisation of
the compat hwcaps until we see a 32-bit CPU. That's fine, as they won't
be visible to userspace until then anyway (PER_LINUX32 is unavailable).

Will

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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/19] arm64: Allow mismatched 32-bit EL0 support
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 12:05:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210604110526.GF2318@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210604093808.GA64162@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 10:38:08AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 06:44:14PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 01:37:15PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 05:47:02PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
> > > > index 338840c00e8e..603bf4160cd6 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
> > > > @@ -630,9 +630,15 @@ static inline bool cpu_supports_mixed_endian_el0(void)
> > > >  	return id_aa64mmfr0_mixed_endian_el0(read_cpuid(ID_AA64MMFR0_EL1));
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > > +const struct cpumask *system_32bit_el0_cpumask(void);
> > > > +DECLARE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(arm64_mismatched_32bit_el0);
> > > > +
> > > >  static inline bool system_supports_32bit_el0(void)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	return cpus_have_const_cap(ARM64_HAS_32BIT_EL0);
> > > > +	u64 pfr0 = read_sanitised_ftr_reg(SYS_ID_AA64PFR0_EL1);
> > > > +
> > > > +	return static_branch_unlikely(&arm64_mismatched_32bit_el0) ||
> > > > +	       id_aa64pfr0_32bit_el0(pfr0);
> > > >  }
> > > 
> > > Note that read_sanitised_ftr_reg() has to do a bsearch() to find the
> > > arm64_ftr_reg, so this will make system_32bit_el0_cpumask() a fair
> > > amount more expensive than it needs to be.
> > 
> > I seriously doubt that it matters, but it did come up before and I proposed
> > a potential solution if it's actually a concern:
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20201202172727.GC29813@willie-the-truck
> > 
> > so if you can show that it's a problem, we can resurrect something like
> > that.
> 
> I'm happy to leave that for future. I raised this because elsewhere this
> is an issue when we need to avoid instrumentation; if that's not a
> concern here on any path then I am not aware of a functional issue.

I can't think of a reason why instrumentation would be an issue for any of
the current callers, but that's a good point to bear in mind.

> > > That said. I reckon this could be much cleaner if we maintained separate
> > > caps:
> > > 
> > > ARM64_ALL_CPUS_HAVE_32BIT_EL0
> > > ARM64_SOME_CPUS_HAVE_32BIT_EL0
> > > 
> > > ... and allow arm64_mismatched_32bit_el0 to be set dependent on
> > > ARM64_SOME_CPUS_HAVE_32BIT_EL0. With that, this can be simplified to:
> > > 
> > > static inline bool system_supports_32bit_el0(void)
> > > {
> > > 	return (cpus_have_const_cap(ARM64_ALL_CPUS_HAVE_32BIT_EL0)) ||
> > > 		static_branch_unlikely(&arm64_mismatched_32bit_el0))
> > 
> > Something similar was discussed in November last year but this falls
> > apart with late onlining because its not generally possible to tell whether
> > you've seen all the CPUs or not.
> 
> Ah; is that for when your boot CPU set is all AArch32-capable, but a
> late-onlined CPU is not?
> 
> I assume that we require at least one of the set of boot CPUs to be
> AArch32 cpable, and don't settle the compat hwcaps after userspace has
> started.

Heh, you assume wrong :)

When we allow the mismatch, then we do actually defer initialisation of
the compat hwcaps until we see a 32-bit CPU. That's fine, as they won't
be visible to userspace until then anyway (PER_LINUX32 is unavailable).

Will

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Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-02 16:47 [PATCH v8 00/19] Add support for 32-bit tasks on asymmetric AArch32 systems Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 01/19] arm64: cpuinfo: Split AArch32 registers out into a separate struct Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03 12:38   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-03 12:38     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-03 17:24     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03 17:24       ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 02/19] arm64: Allow mismatched 32-bit EL0 support Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03 12:37   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-03 12:37     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-03 17:44     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03 17:44       ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04  9:38       ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-04  9:38         ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-04 11:05         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2021-06-04 11:05           ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 12:04           ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-04 12:04             ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-04 13:50             ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 13:50               ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 03/19] KVM: arm64: Kill 32-bit vCPUs on systems with mismatched " Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 04/19] arm64: Kill 32-bit applications scheduled on 64-bit-only CPUs Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 05/19] sched: Introduce task_cpu_possible_mask() to limit fallback rq selection Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 17:10   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-04 17:10     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-07 17:04     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-07 17:04       ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 06/19] cpuset: Don't use the cpu_possible_mask as a last resort for cgroup v1 Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 17:11   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-04 17:11     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-07 17:20     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-07 17:20       ` Will Deacon
2021-06-10 10:20       ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-10 10:20         ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 07/19] cpuset: Honour task_cpu_possible_mask() in guarantee_online_cpus() Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 17:11   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-04 17:11     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 08/19] sched: Reject CPU affinity changes based on task_cpu_possible_mask() Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 17:11   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-04 17:11     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-07 22:43     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-07 22:43       ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 09/19] sched: Introduce task_struct::user_cpus_ptr to track requested affinity Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 17:12   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-04 17:12     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 10/19] sched: Split the guts of sched_setaffinity() into a helper function Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 17:12   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-04 17:12     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 11/19] sched: Allow task CPU affinity to be restricted on asymmetric systems Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04 17:12   ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-04 17:12     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-07 22:52     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-07 22:52       ` Will Deacon
2021-06-10 10:20       ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-10 10:20         ` Valentin Schneider
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 12/19] sched: Introduce task_cpus_dl_admissible() to check proposed affinity Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03  9:43   ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-06-03  9:43     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-06-03  9:52     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03  9:52       ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 13/19] arm64: Implement task_cpu_possible_mask() Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 14/19] arm64: exec: Adjust affinity for compat tasks with mismatched 32-bit EL0 Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03  9:45   ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-06-03  9:45     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 15/19] arm64: Prevent offlining first CPU with 32-bit EL0 on mismatched system Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03 12:58   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-03 12:58     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-03 17:40     ` Will Deacon
2021-06-03 17:40       ` Will Deacon
2021-06-04  9:49       ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-04  9:49         ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-04 12:14         ` Qais Yousef
2021-06-04 12:14           ` Qais Yousef
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 16/19] arm64: Advertise CPUs capable of running 32-bit applications in sysfs Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 17/19] arm64: Hook up cmdline parameter to allow mismatched 32-bit EL0 Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 18/19] arm64: Remove logic to kill 32-bit tasks on 64-bit-only cores Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47 ` [PATCH v8 19/19] Documentation: arm64: describe asymmetric 32-bit support Will Deacon
2021-06-02 16:47   ` Will Deacon

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