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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com,
	 pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com,  peterz@infradead.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, seanjc@google.com,
	 dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, nik.borisov@suse.com,
	kpsingh@kernel.org,  longman@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: Set BHI_NO in guest when host is not affected by BHI
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 16:46:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABgObfZU_uLAPzDV--n67H3Hq6OKxUO=FQa2MH3CjdgTQR8pJg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff3cf105-ef2a-426c-ba9b-00fb5c2559c7@oracle.com>

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 4:34 PM Alexandre Chartre
<alexandre.chartre@oracle.com> wrote:
> Still, we could enumerate CPUs which don't have eIBRS independently of NO_BHI
> (if we have a list of such CPUs) and set X86_BUG_BHI for cpus with eIBRS.
>
> So in arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c, replace:
>
>         /* When virtualized, eIBRS could be hidden, assume vulnerable */
>         if (!(ia32_cap & ARCH_CAP_BHI_NO) &&
>             !cpu_matches(cpu_vuln_whitelist, NO_BHI) &&
>             (boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_IBRS_ENHANCED) ||
>              boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_HYPERVISOR)))
>                 setup_force_cpu_bug(X86_BUG_BHI);
>
> with something like:
>
>         if (!(ia32_cap & ARCH_CAP_BHI_NO) &&
>             !cpu_matches(cpu_vuln_whitelist, NO_BHI) &&
>             (boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_IBRS_ENHANCED) ||
>             !cpu_matches(cpu_vuln_whitelist, NO_EIBRS)))
>                 setup_force_cpu_bug(X86_BUG_BHI);

No, that you cannot do because the hypervisor can and will fake the
family/model/stepping.

However, looking again at the original patch you submitted, I think
the review was confusing host and guest sides. If the host is "not
affected", i.e. the host *genuinely* does not have eIBRS, it can set
BHI_NO and that will bypass the "always mitigate in a guest" bit.

I think that's robust and boot_cpu_has_bug(X86_BUG_BHI) is the right
way to do it.

If a VM migration pool has both !eIBRS and eIBRS machines, it will
combine the two; on one hand it will not set the eIBRS bit (bit 1), on
the other hand it will not set BHI_NO either, and it will set the
hypervisor bit. The result is that the guest *will* use mitigations.

To double check, from the point of view of a nested hypervisor, you
could set BHI_NO in a nested guest:
* if the nested hypervisor has BHI_NO passed from the outer level
* or if its CPUID passes cpu_matches(cpu_vuln_whitelist, NO_BHI)
* but it won't matter whether the nested hypervisor lacks eIBRS,
because that bit is not reliable in a VM

The logic you'd use in KVM therefore is:

   (ia32_cap & ARCH_CAP_BHI_NO) ||
   cpu_matches(cpu_vuln_whitelist, NO_BHI) ||
   (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_IBRS_ENHANCED) &&
    !boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_HYPERVISOR)))

but that is exactly !boot_cpu_has_bug(X86_BUG_BHI) and is therefore
what Alexandre's patch does.

So I'll wait for further comments but I think the patch is correct.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-11 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-11  7:24 [PATCH] KVM: x86: Set BHI_NO in guest when host is not affected by BHI Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-11  7:34 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-04-11  7:49   ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-11  7:51 ` Greg KH
2024-04-11  8:00   ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-11  7:51 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-04-11  8:43 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-04-11  9:33   ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-11  9:38     ` Andrew Cooper
2024-04-11 11:14       ` Chao Gao
2024-04-11 13:20         ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-15 15:14           ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-15 17:17             ` Dave Hansen
2024-04-16  8:41               ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-25 20:45                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2024-04-11 13:22     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-11 13:32       ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-11 14:13         ` Andrew Cooper
2024-04-11 14:33           ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-11 14:46             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2024-04-11 15:12               ` Alexandre Chartre
2024-04-11 15:20                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-11 15:56                   ` Chao Gao
2024-04-11 20:50                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2024-04-12  3:24                       ` Chao Gao
2024-04-12 16:33                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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