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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Adrian Hunter" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Alexander Gordeev" <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Vincenzo Frascino" <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Naresh Kamboju" <naresh.kamboju@linaro.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Vasily Gorbik" <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Heiko Carstens" <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Anna-Maria Gleixner" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Sven Schnelle" <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bug: Fix no-return-statement warning with !CONFIG_BUG
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 17:35:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0cf6827-06c2-4212-848c-10d275c75546@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875xwjcqpl.fsf@mail.lhotse>

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, at 04:19, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, at 11:27, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>> On 11/04/24 11:22, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>>>
>>> That is fragile because it depends on defined(__OPTIMIZE__),
>>> so it should still be:
>>
>> If there is a function that is defined but that must never be
>> called, I think we are doing something wrong.
>
> It's a pretty inevitable result of using IS_ENABLED(), which the docs
> encourage people to use.

Using IS_ENABLED() is usually a good idea, as it helps avoid
adding extra #ifdef checks and just drops static functions as
dead code, or lets you call extern functions that are conditionally
defined in a different file.

The thing is that here it does not do either of those and
adds more complexity than it avoids.

> In this case it could easily be turned into a build error by just making
> it an extern rather than a static inline.
>
> But I think Christophe's solution is actually better, because it's more
> explicit, ie. this function should not be called and if it is that's a
> build time error.

I haven't seen a good solution here. Ideally we'd just define
the functions unconditionally and have IS_ENABLED() take care
of letting the compiler drop them silently, but that doesn't
build because of missing struct members.

I won't object to either an 'extern' declaration or the
'BUILD_BUG_ON()' if you and others prefer that, both are better
than BUG() here. I still think my suggestion would be a little
simpler.

     Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Adrian Hunter" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Naresh Kamboju <naresh.kamboju@linaro.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Anna-Maria Gleixner <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sven Sch nelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bug: Fix no-return-statement warning with !CONFIG_BUG
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 17:35:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0cf6827-06c2-4212-848c-10d275c75546@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875xwjcqpl.fsf@mail.lhotse>

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, at 04:19, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, at 11:27, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>> On 11/04/24 11:22, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>>>
>>> That is fragile because it depends on defined(__OPTIMIZE__),
>>> so it should still be:
>>
>> If there is a function that is defined but that must never be
>> called, I think we are doing something wrong.
>
> It's a pretty inevitable result of using IS_ENABLED(), which the docs
> encourage people to use.

Using IS_ENABLED() is usually a good idea, as it helps avoid
adding extra #ifdef checks and just drops static functions as
dead code, or lets you call extern functions that are conditionally
defined in a different file.

The thing is that here it does not do either of those and
adds more complexity than it avoids.

> In this case it could easily be turned into a build error by just making
> it an extern rather than a static inline.
>
> But I think Christophe's solution is actually better, because it's more
> explicit, ie. this function should not be called and if it is that's a
> build time error.

I haven't seen a good solution here. Ideally we'd just define
the functions unconditionally and have IS_ENABLED() take care
of letting the compiler drop them silently, but that doesn't
build because of missing struct members.

I won't object to either an 'extern' declaration or the
'BUILD_BUG_ON()' if you and others prefer that, both are better
than BUG() here. I still think my suggestion would be a little
simpler.

     Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-15 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-10 15:32 [PATCH] bug: Fix no-return-statement warning with !CONFIG_BUG Adrian Hunter
2024-04-10 15:32 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-04-10 17:02 ` Naresh Kamboju
2024-04-10 17:02   ` Naresh Kamboju
2024-04-10 20:05 ` [tip: timers/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Adrian Hunter
2024-04-11  7:04 ` [PATCH] " Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-11  7:04   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-11  7:16   ` Adrian Hunter
2024-04-11  7:16     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-04-11  7:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-11  9:03       ` Adrian Hunter
2024-04-11 10:27         ` David Laight
2024-04-11  8:13     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-11  8:13       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-11  8:22       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-11  8:22         ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-11  9:27         ` Adrian Hunter
2024-04-11  9:27           ` Adrian Hunter
2024-04-11 11:26           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-11 11:26             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-15  2:19             ` Michael Ellerman
2024-04-15 15:35               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2024-04-15 15:35                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-15 17:07                 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-15 17:32                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-15 17:32                     ` Arnd Bergmann

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