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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: "Bernhard Voelker" <mail@bernhard-voelker.de>,
	"Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	"Pádraig Brady" <P@draigBrady.com>
Cc: Petr Malat <oss@malat.biz>,
	util-linux <util-linux@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	69532@debbugs.gnu.org, Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: bug#69532: mv's new -x option should be made orthogonal to -t/-T/default
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:03:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5fb89ff4-74fc-7391-5dde-f6ad24132b34@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11c9a6a2-c73d-4b99-b071-48e7eab2fd19@bernhard-voelker.de>

On 3/20/24 14:43, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
> On 3/17/24 07:10, Paul Eggert wrote:
> Now, extending "exchange" to more arguments is confusing and the
> use is not intuitive:
>    mv -v --exchange  a b c d

It's also pointless. An atomic exchange on more than 2 files ISN'T ATOMIC.
That's why I didn't do it.

You already had "mv -T" requiring exactly two arguments, so thinking mv -x has
cooties because it works the same way is just weird.

> I have the gut feeling that we didn't think through all cases,

Sounds like. Having mv modify its source directory during recursive descent is
creepy.

Toybox implemented:

-x	Atomically exchange source/dest (--swap)

Which behaves like:

  $ ./mv -x one two
  $ ./mv -x one two three
  mv: -x needs 2 args

My change from this discussion was adding the "--swap" synonym you wanted.

Rob

      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-20 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <10c814a7-cb68-4fb4-ad8d-f88f286fb0b1@cs.ucla.edu>
     [not found] ` <58281f96-f9c6-4567-e3c9-c6a6cfa6ce27@draigBrady.com>
     [not found]   ` <ZeZqzB4-OzHYfFeQ@codewreck.org>
     [not found]     ` <5914e8b2-48ac-456b-9753-6a7bae7a9bbb@cs.ucla.edu>
2024-03-05 14:16       ` bug#69532: mv's new -x option should be made orthogonal to -t/-T/default Pádraig Brady
2024-03-05 20:41         ` Karel Zak
2024-03-05 22:13         ` Masatake YAMATO
2024-03-17  6:10         ` Paul Eggert
2024-03-17 11:32           ` Pádraig Brady
2024-03-17 11:40             ` Pádraig Brady
2024-03-20 22:10             ` Paul Eggert
2024-03-20 19:43           ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-03-20 20:56             ` Paul Eggert
2024-03-20 22:53               ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-03-20 23:56                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-03-21 21:45                   ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-03-23  1:44                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-03-23 10:24                       ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-03-22 10:22                 ` Karel Zak
2024-03-23 10:24                   ` Bernhard Voelker
2024-03-21  0:03             ` Rob Landley [this message]

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