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From: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
	"hengqi@linux.alibaba.com" <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"virtio@lists.oasis-open.org" <virtio@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [virtio-comment] RE: [virtio] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 4/7] net-features: Add notification coalescing requirements
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 21:39:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR12MB548110479D1811D0419A136CDC3DA@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230720151917.GB184015@fedora>



> From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 11:19 AM
> > +## 3.3 Virtqueue notification coalescing re-enable support
> 
> It's called "re-arming" above but "re-enable" here. Please choose one term and
> use it consistently.
>
Will change to re-arming as "enablement" can be easily confused with queue_enable and reset registers of pci.

 
> > +0. Design goal:
> > +   a. Avoid constant notification from the device even in conditions when
> > +      the driver may not have acted on the previous pending notification.
> > +1. When Tx and Rx virtqueue notification coalescing is enabled, and when
> such
> > +   notification is reported by the device, device should be able to
> > +disable
> 
> "notification" -> "a notification"
> 
> ", device" -> ", the device"
> 
> > +   further notifications until the driver finish reacting to the
> > + already
> 
> s/finish/finishes/
> 
> > +   generated notification.
> > +2. When the driver enables the notification coalescing reporting, the
> > +device
> 
> "enables the notification coalescing reporting" -> "enables notification
> coalescing reporting"
> 
> > +   to notify again if notification coalescing conditions are met.
> 
> I can't parse this sentence. Maybe "the device _has_ to notify again ..."?
> 
> I find this text hard to understand. Is this a mechanism where the device does
> not send further notifications on a virtqueue until the driver has re-armed
> them?
>
Right.
I will rephrase it.
 
> How does this relate to EVENT_IDX, which can be used to achieve a similar
> effect? I guess the downside to EVENT_IDX is that the device must DMA
> repeatedly in order to detect changes from driver, whereas this new re-arming
> mechanism involves a hardware register write?
> 
Correct. It is similar to EVENT_IDX without polling large scale unique addresses on the PCI.

> Can this new mechanism be generic for any kind of virtqueue, not just virtio-net
> rx/tx?
Maybe we can. Haven't found wider usage yet for it.
One needs to create a generic interface first to configure such things.
It was kind of implicit requirement that I didn't write it specific to this feature.

Config space was one way, but we discovered, debated and agreed that instead of config space, we should have a dma interface to exchange such info between driver and device.
Its now due for many features.
I suggest since receive flow filter has such requirement, we start with generic interface for it and expand to more like this one.

I will revise v3 to capture your inputs further.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-23 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-02 23:44 [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 0/7] virtio net new features requirements Parav Pandit
2023-07-02 23:44 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 1/7] net-features: Add requirements document for release 1.4 Parav Pandit
2023-07-20  2:10   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20  2:15     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-07-02 23:44 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 2/7] net-features: Add low latency transmit queue requirements Parav Pandit
2023-07-20 15:28   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-07-23 21:31     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-07-02 23:44 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 3/7] net-features: Add low latency receive " Parav Pandit
2023-07-02 23:44 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 4/7] net-features: Add notification coalescing requirements Parav Pandit
2023-07-20 15:19   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-07-23 21:39     ` Parav Pandit [this message]
2023-07-02 23:44 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 5/7] net-features: Add n-tuple receive flow filters requirements Parav Pandit
2023-07-02 23:44 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 6/7] net-features: Add packet timestamp requirements Parav Pandit
2023-07-02 23:44 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 7/7] net-features: Add header data split requirements Parav Pandit
2023-07-20  2:20 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH REQUIREMENTS v2 0/7] virtio net new features requirements Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-20  2:28   ` Parav Pandit
2023-07-20  2:36     ` Xuan Zhuo

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