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* Is ->sendmsg() allowed to change the msghdr struct it is given?
@ 2023-06-26 21:14 David Howells
  2023-06-26 21:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Howells @ 2023-06-26 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Jakub Kicinski
  Cc: dhowells, Ilya Dryomov, David S. Miller, Eric Dumazet,
	Paolo Abeni, ceph-devel, netdev, linux-kernel

Hi Jakub,

Do you know if ->sendmsg() might alter the msghdr struct it is passed as an
argument?  Certainly it can alter msg_iter, but can it also modify, say,
msg_flags?

Thanks,
David


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* Re: Is ->sendmsg() allowed to change the msghdr struct it is given?
  2023-06-26 21:14 Is ->sendmsg() allowed to change the msghdr struct it is given? David Howells
@ 2023-06-26 21:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
  2023-06-27 12:51   ` Paolo Abeni
  2023-06-27 13:09   ` David Howells
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Kicinski @ 2023-06-26 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: David Howells
  Cc: Ilya Dryomov, David S. Miller, Eric Dumazet, Paolo Abeni,
	ceph-devel, netdev, linux-kernel

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:14:41 +0100 David Howells wrote:
> Do you know if ->sendmsg() might alter the msghdr struct it is passed as an
> argument? Certainly it can alter msg_iter, but can it also modify,
> say, msg_flags?

I'm not aware of a precedent either way.
Eric or Paolo would know better than me, tho.

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* Re: Is ->sendmsg() allowed to change the msghdr struct it is given?
  2023-06-26 21:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
@ 2023-06-27 12:51   ` Paolo Abeni
  2023-06-27 12:54     ` Paolo Abeni
  2023-06-27 13:09   ` David Howells
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Abeni @ 2023-06-27 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Jakub Kicinski, David Howells
  Cc: Ilya Dryomov, David S. Miller, Eric Dumazet, ceph-devel, netdev,
	linux-kernel

On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 14:22 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:14:41 +0100 David Howells wrote:
> > Do you know if ->sendmsg() might alter the msghdr struct it is passed as an
> > argument? Certainly it can alter msg_iter, but can it also modify,
> > say, msg_flags?
> 
> I'm not aware of a precedent either way.
> Eric or Paolo would know better than me, tho.

udp_sendmsg() can set the MSG_TRUNC bit in msg->msg_flags, so I guess
that kind of actions are sort of allowed. Still, AFAICS, the kernel
based msghdr is not copied back to the user-space, so such change
should be almost a no-op in practice.

@David: which would be the end goal for such action?

Cheers,

Paolo


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* Re: Is ->sendmsg() allowed to change the msghdr struct it is given?
  2023-06-27 12:51   ` Paolo Abeni
@ 2023-06-27 12:54     ` Paolo Abeni
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Abeni @ 2023-06-27 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Jakub Kicinski, David Howells
  Cc: Ilya Dryomov, David S. Miller, Eric Dumazet, ceph-devel, netdev,
	linux-kernel

On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 14:51 +0200, Paolo Abeni wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 14:22 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:14:41 +0100 David Howells wrote:
> > > Do you know if ->sendmsg() might alter the msghdr struct it is passed as an
> > > argument? Certainly it can alter msg_iter, but can it also modify,
> > > say, msg_flags?
> > 
> > I'm not aware of a precedent either way.
> > Eric or Paolo would know better than me, tho.
> 
> udp_sendmsg() can set the MSG_TRUNC bit in msg->msg_flags, so I guess
> that kind of actions are sort of allowed.

Sorry, ENOCOFFEE here. It's actually udp_recvmsg() updating msg-
>msg_flags.

>  Still, AFAICS, the kernel
> based msghdr is not copied back to the user-space, so such change
> should be almost a no-op in practice.

This part should be correct.

> @David: which would be the end goal for such action?

Sorry for the noisy reply,

Paolo


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* Re: Is ->sendmsg() allowed to change the msghdr struct it is given?
  2023-06-26 21:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
  2023-06-27 12:51   ` Paolo Abeni
@ 2023-06-27 13:09   ` David Howells
  2023-06-27 13:51     ` Paolo Abeni
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Howells @ 2023-06-27 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Paolo Abeni
  Cc: dhowells, Jakub Kicinski, Ilya Dryomov, David S. Miller,
	Eric Dumazet, ceph-devel, netdev, linux-kernel

Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:

> udp_sendmsg() can set the MSG_TRUNC bit in msg->msg_flags, so I guess
> that kind of actions are sort of allowed. Still, AFAICS, the kernel
> based msghdr is not copied back to the user-space, so such change
> should be almost a no-op in practice.
> 
> @David: which would be the end goal for such action?

Various places in the kernel use sock_sendmsg() - and I've added a bunch more
with the MSG_SPLICE_PAGES patches.  For some of the things I've added, there's
a loop which used to call ->sendpage() and now calls sock_sendmsg().  In most
of those places, msghdr will get reset each time round the loop - but not in
all cases.

Of particular immediate interest is net/ceph/messenger_v2.c.  If you go to:

	https://lore.kernel.org/r/3111635.1687813501@warthog.procyon.org.uk/

and look at the resultant code:

	static int do_sendmsg(struct socket *sock, struct iov_iter *it)
	{
		struct msghdr msg = { .msg_flags = CEPH_MSG_FLAGS };
		int ret;

		msg.msg_iter = *it;
		while (iov_iter_count(it)) {
			ret = sock_sendmsg(sock, &msg);
			if (ret <= 0) {
				if (ret == -EAGAIN)
					ret = 0;
				return ret;
			}

			iov_iter_advance(it, ret);
		}

		WARN_ON(msg_data_left(&msg));
		return 1;
	}

for example.  It could/would malfunction if sendmsg() is allowed to modify
msghdr - or if it doesn't update msg_iter.  Likewise:

	static int do_try_sendpage(struct socket *sock, struct iov_iter *it)
	{
		struct msghdr msg = { .msg_flags = CEPH_MSG_FLAGS };
		struct bio_vec bv;
		int ret;

		if (WARN_ON(!iov_iter_is_bvec(it)))
			return -EINVAL;

		while (iov_iter_count(it)) {
			/* iov_iter_iovec() for ITER_BVEC */
			bvec_set_page(&bv, it->bvec->bv_page,
				      min(iov_iter_count(it),
					  it->bvec->bv_len - it->iov_offset),
				      it->bvec->bv_offset + it->iov_offset);

			/*
			 * MSG_SPLICE_PAGES cannot properly handle pages with
			 * page_count == 0, we need to fall back to sendmsg if
			 * that's the case.
			 *
			 * Same goes for slab pages: skb_can_coalesce() allows
			 * coalescing neighboring slab objects into a single frag
			 * which triggers one of hardened usercopy checks.
			 */
			if (sendpage_ok(bv.bv_page))
				msg.msg_flags |= MSG_SPLICE_PAGES;
			else
				msg.msg_flags &= ~MSG_SPLICE_PAGES;

			iov_iter_bvec(&msg.msg_iter, ITER_SOURCE, &bv, 1, bv.bv_len);
			ret = sock_sendmsg(sock, &msg);
			if (ret <= 0) {
				if (ret == -EAGAIN)
					ret = 0;
				return ret;
			}

			iov_iter_advance(it, ret);
		}

		return 1;
	}

could be similarly affected if ->sendmsg() mucks about with msg_flags.

David


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* Re: Is ->sendmsg() allowed to change the msghdr struct it is given?
  2023-06-27 13:09   ` David Howells
@ 2023-06-27 13:51     ` Paolo Abeni
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Abeni @ 2023-06-27 13:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: David Howells
  Cc: Jakub Kicinski, Ilya Dryomov, David S. Miller, Eric Dumazet,
	ceph-devel, netdev, linux-kernel

On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 14:09 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > udp_sendmsg() can set the MSG_TRUNC bit in msg->msg_flags, so I guess
> > that kind of actions are sort of allowed. Still, AFAICS, the kernel
> > based msghdr is not copied back to the user-space, so such change
> > should be almost a no-op in practice.
> > 
> > @David: which would be the end goal for such action?
> 
> Various places in the kernel use sock_sendmsg() - and I've added a bunch more
> with the MSG_SPLICE_PAGES patches.  For some of the things I've added, there's
> a loop which used to call ->sendpage() and now calls sock_sendmsg().  In most
> of those places, msghdr will get reset each time round the loop - but not in
> all cases.
> 
> Of particular immediate interest is net/ceph/messenger_v2.c.  If you go to:
> 
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/r/3111635.1687813501@warthog.procyon.org.uk/
> 
> and look at the resultant code:
> 
> 	static int do_sendmsg(struct socket *sock, struct iov_iter *it)
> 	{
> 		struct msghdr msg = { .msg_flags = CEPH_MSG_FLAGS };
> 		int ret;
> 
> 		msg.msg_iter = *it;
> 		while (iov_iter_count(it)) {
> 			ret = sock_sendmsg(sock, &msg);
> 			if (ret <= 0) {
> 				if (ret == -EAGAIN)
> 					ret = 0;
> 				return ret;
> 			}
> 
> 			iov_iter_advance(it, ret);
> 		}
> 
> 		WARN_ON(msg_data_left(&msg));
> 		return 1;
> 	}
> 
> for example.  It could/would malfunction if sendmsg() is allowed to modify
> msghdr - or if it doesn't update msg_iter.  Likewise:
> 
> 	static int do_try_sendpage(struct socket *sock, struct iov_iter *it)
> 	{
> 		struct msghdr msg = { .msg_flags = CEPH_MSG_FLAGS };
> 		struct bio_vec bv;
> 		int ret;
> 
> 		if (WARN_ON(!iov_iter_is_bvec(it)))
> 			return -EINVAL;
> 
> 		while (iov_iter_count(it)) {
> 			/* iov_iter_iovec() for ITER_BVEC */
> 			bvec_set_page(&bv, it->bvec->bv_page,
> 				      min(iov_iter_count(it),
> 					  it->bvec->bv_len - it->iov_offset),
> 				      it->bvec->bv_offset + it->iov_offset);
> 
> 			/*
> 			 * MSG_SPLICE_PAGES cannot properly handle pages with
> 			 * page_count == 0, we need to fall back to sendmsg if
> 			 * that's the case.
> 			 *
> 			 * Same goes for slab pages: skb_can_coalesce() allows
> 			 * coalescing neighboring slab objects into a single frag
> 			 * which triggers one of hardened usercopy checks.
> 			 */
> 			if (sendpage_ok(bv.bv_page))
> 				msg.msg_flags |= MSG_SPLICE_PAGES;
> 			else
> 				msg.msg_flags &= ~MSG_SPLICE_PAGES;
> 
> 			iov_iter_bvec(&msg.msg_iter, ITER_SOURCE, &bv, 1, bv.bv_len);
> 			ret = sock_sendmsg(sock, &msg);
> 			if (ret <= 0) {
> 				if (ret == -EAGAIN)
> 					ret = 0;
> 				return ret;
> 			}
> 
> 			iov_iter_advance(it, ret);
> 		}
> 
> 		return 1;
> 	}
> 
> could be similarly affected if ->sendmsg() mucks about with msg_flags.

With some help from the compiler - locally changing the proto_ops and
proto sendmsg definition and handling the fallout - I found the
following:

- mptcp_sendmsg() is clearing unsupported msg_flags 
  (I should have recalled this one even without much testing ;)

- udpv4_sendmsg() is setting msg_name/msg_namelen
- tls_device_sendmsg() is clearing MSG_SPLICE_PAGE when zerocopy is not
supported
- unix_seqpacket_sendmsg() is clearing msg_namelen

I could have missed something, but the above looks safe for the use-
case you mentioned.

Cheers,

Paolo


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