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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: J Lovejoy <opensource@jilayne.com>, Max Mehl <max.mehl@fsfe.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Better statistics and exclude handling
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 23:44:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rqr2ab9.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97d8beb2-db33-1e50-eadb-6ac8d650f044@jilayne.com>

On Mon, May 23 2022 at 10:11, J. Lovejoy wrote:
> On 5/17/22 3:43 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> I think the discussion here is hitting upon the "inconvenience" of the 
> lack of black/white rules in the law (as to what is copyrightable) 
> versus the convenience of downstream recipients of code who want to be 
> sure they have proper rights (which mixes in the guidance/rules of 
> Reuse, tooling, etc.).

Correct.

> I think some rules in terms of files that are clearly not copyrightable 
> can be implemented in various tooling (hopefully, with the guidance of a 
> lawyer steeped in copyright law), and I agree that putting a license (by 
> way of an SPDX identifier or any other way for that matter) on such 
> files is neither a good use of time nor a good idea (from the 
> perspective of being inaccurate as to the need for a license and thus 
> sending the wrong impression). That being said, there will not be a way 
> to make clear cut rules for everything, without involving a judge. 
> Sorry! That's just how the law works (and we actually often don't want 
> black/white lines in the law, actually).
>
> I can see a policy of, "when it's not clear (as to copyrightability), 
> then add a license", though.

No argument here, but trivial things like an include which file includes
another include file are pretty clear IMO and we really should make our
mind up on those. Even a header file which contains a single function
declaration is questionable at best, but yes it's hard to put a hard
line on those.

Thanks,

        tglx

      reply	other threads:[~2022-05-23 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-16 10:27 [patch 0/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Better statistics and exclude handling Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 1/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Add percentage to statistics Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 2/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Add directory statistics Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 3/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Add [sub]directory statistics Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 4/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Add option to display files without SPDX Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 5/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Put excluded files and directories into a separate file Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 6/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Exclude config directories Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 7/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Exclude MAINTAINERS/CREDITS Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 8/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Exclude dot files Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 14:22   ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-05-16 18:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-18 13:36       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-05-16 10:27 ` [patch 9/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Exclude top-level README Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 13:14 ` [patch 0/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Better statistics and exclude handling Max Mehl
2022-05-16 18:52   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-16 18:59     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-17  8:25       ` Max Mehl
2022-05-17 21:43         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-23 16:11           ` J Lovejoy
2022-05-23 21:44             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]

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