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From: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
To: Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenz@amazon.com>
Cc: "Sean Christopherson" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 3/5] KVM: x86: Add notifications for Heki policy configuration and violation
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 14:23:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240514.mai3Ahdoo2qu@digikod.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D15VQ97L5M8J.1TDNQE6KLW6JO@amazon.com>

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 10:07:00AM +0000, Nicolas Saenz Julienne wrote:
> On Tue May 7, 2024 at 4:16 PM UTC, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > If yes, that would indeed require a *lot* of work for something we're not
> > > sure will be accepted later on.
> >
> > Yes and no.  The AWS folks are pursuing VSM support in KVM+QEMU, and SVSM support
> > is trending toward the paired VM+vCPU model.  IMO, it's entirely feasible to
> > design KVM support such that much of the development load can be shared between
> > the projects.  And having 2+ use cases for a feature (set) makes it _much_ more
> > likely that the feature(s) will be accepted.
> 
> Since Sean mentioned our VSM efforts, a small update. We were able to
> validate the concept of one KVM VM per VTL as discussed in LPC. Right
> now only for single CPU guests, but are in the late stages of bringing
> up MP support. The resulting KVM code is small, and most will be
> uncontroversial (I hope). If other obligations allow it, we plan on
> having something suitable for review in the coming months.

Looks good!

> 
> Our implementation aims to implement all the VSM spec necessary to run
> with Microsoft Credential Guard. But note that some aspects necessary
> for HVCI are not covered, especially the ones that depend on MBEC
> support, or some categories of secure intercepts.

We already implemented support for MBEC, so that should not be an issue.
We just need to find the best interface to configure it.

> 
> Development happens
> https://github.com/vianpl/{linux,qemu,kvm-unit-tests} and the vsm-next
> branch, but I'd advice against looking into it until we add some order
> to the rework. Regardless, feel free to get in touch.

Thanks for the update.

Could we schedule a PUCK meeting to synchronize and help each other?
What about June 12?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-14 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03 13:19 [RFC PATCH v3 0/5] Hypervisor-Enforced Kernel Integrity - CR pinning Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-03 13:19 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/5] virt: Introduce Hypervisor Enforced Kernel Integrity (Heki) Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-03 13:19 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/5] KVM: x86: Add new hypercall to lock control registers Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-03 13:19 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/5] KVM: x86: Add notifications for Heki policy configuration and violation Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-03 14:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06 17:50     ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-07  1:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07  9:30         ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-07 16:16           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-10 10:07             ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-05-14 12:23               ` Mickaël Salaün [this message]
2024-05-15 20:32                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-16 14:02                 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2024-05-14 12:15             ` Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-03 13:19 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/5] heki: Lock guest control registers at the end of guest kernel init Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-03 13:19 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/5] virt: Add Heki KUnit tests Mickaël Salaün
2024-05-03 13:49 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/5] Hypervisor-Enforced Kernel Integrity - CR pinning Sean Christopherson

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