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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Mike Marciniszyn <mike.marciniszyn@intel.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	Artemy Kovalyov <artemyko@nvidia.com>,
	Michael Guralnik <michaelgur@nvidia.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Pak Markthub <pmarkthub@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] RDMA/umem: pin_user_pages*() can temporarily fail due to migration glitches
Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 09:10:32 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240501121032.GA941030@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZjHO04Rb75TIlmkA@infradead.org>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 10:10:43PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > +		pinned = -ENOMEM;
> > +		int attempts = 0;
> > +		/*
> > +		 * pin_user_pages_fast() can return -EAGAIN, due to falling back
> > +		 * to gup-slow and then failing to migrate pages out of
> > +		 * ZONE_MOVABLE due to a transient elevated page refcount.
> > +		 *
> > +		 * One retry is enough to avoid this problem, so far, but let's
> > +		 * use a slightly higher retry count just in case even larger
> > +		 * systems have a longer-lasting transient refcount problem.
> > +		 *
> > +		 */
> > +		static const int MAX_ATTEMPTS = 3;
> > +
> > +		while (pinned == -EAGAIN && attempts < MAX_ATTEMPTS) {
> > +			pinned = pin_user_pages_fast(cur_base,
> > +						     min_t(unsigned long,
> > +							npages, PAGE_SIZE /
> > +							sizeof(struct page *)),
> > +						     gup_flags, page_list);
> >  			ret = pinned;
> > -			goto umem_release;
> > +			attempts++;
> > +
> > +			if (pinned == -EAGAIN)
> > +				continue;
> >  		}
> > +		if (pinned < 0)
> > +			goto umem_release;
> 
> This doesn't make sense.  IFF a blind retry is all that is needed it
> should be done in the core functionality.  I fear it's not that easy,
> though.

+1

This migration retry weirdness is a GUP issue, it needs to be solved
in the mm not exposed to every pin_user_pages caller.

If it turns out ZONE_MOVEABLE pages can't actually be reliably moved
then it is pretty broken..

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-01 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-01  0:31 [RFC] RDMA/umem: pin_user_pages*() can temporarily fail due to migration glitches John Hubbard
2024-05-01  5:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-01 12:10   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-05-01 17:32     ` John Hubbard
2024-05-02  1:05     ` Alistair Popple
2024-05-02  6:49       ` John Hubbard
2024-05-02  6:56       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-02 18:10         ` John Hubbard
2024-05-02 18:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-02 18:44             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-05-10  7:54           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-11  0:32             ` Kasireddy, Vivek

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