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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Mark Wunderlich <mark.wunderlich@intel.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	John David Anglin <dave.anglin@bell.net>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: use the __packed attribute only on architectures where it is efficient
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 10:43:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZcLuWUNRZadJr0tQ@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9651b7f-2dc5-efd7-77ca-455b4925f17b@redhat.com>

On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 07:31:26PM +0100, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024, Ming Lei wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 12:14:14PM +0100, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > The __packed macro (expanding to __attribute__((__packed__))) specifies
> > > that the structure has an alignment of 1. Therefore, it may be arbitrarily
> > > misaligned. On architectures that don't have hardware support for
> > > unaligned accesses, gcc generates very inefficient code that accesses the
> > > structure fields byte-by-byte and assembles the result using shifts and
> > > ors.
> > > 
> > > For example, on PA-RISC, this function is compiled to 23 instructions with
> > > the __packed attribute and only 2 instructions without the __packed
> > > attribute.
> > 
> > Can you share user visible effects in this way? such as IOPS or CPU
> > utilization effect when running typical workload on null_blk or NVMe.
> 
> The patch reduces total kernel size by 4096 bytes. The parisc machine 
> doesn't have PCIe, so I can't test it with NVMe :)

You can run test over null-blk, which is enough to cover this report or change,
given this patch is marked as "Fixes: ", we need to understand what it fixes.

> 
> > CPU is supposed to be super fast if the data is in single L1 cacheline,
> > but removing '__packed' may introduce one extra L1 cacheline load for
> > bio.
> 
> Saving the intruction cache is also important. Removing the __packed 
> keyword increases the bio structure size by 8 bytes - that is, L1 data 
> cache consumption will be increased with the probability 8/64. And it 
> reduces L1 instruction cache consumption by 84 bytes - that is one or two 
> cachelines.

Yes.

But the two kinds of caches have different properties, such as:

- instruction cache has lower miss rate
- instruction cache is read only

so I'd suggest to provide null-blk test result at least.


Thanks,
Ming


      reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-06 11:14 [PATCH] block: use the __packed attribute only on architectures where it is efficient Mikulas Patocka
2024-02-06 14:18 ` Ming Lei
2024-02-06 18:31   ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-02-07  2:43     ` Ming Lei [this message]

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