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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: "Petr Tesařík" <petr@tesarici.cz>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/40] Memory allocation profiling
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 16:48:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFlgG02A87qPNIn1@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230508205939.0b5b485c@meshulam.tesarici.cz>

On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 08:59:39PM +0200, Petr Tesařík wrote:
> On Mon, 8 May 2023 12:28:52 -0400
> Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 06:09:13PM +0200, Petr Tesařík wrote:
> > > Sure, although AFAIK the index does not cover all possible config
> > > options (so non-x86 arch code is often forgotten). However, that's the
> > > less important part.
> > > 
> > > What do you do if you need to hook something that does conflict with an
> > > existing identifier?  
> > 
> > As already happens in this patchset, rename the other identifier.
> > 
> > But this is C, we avoid these kinds of conflicts already because the
> > language has no namespacing
> 
> This statement is not accurate, but I agree there's not much. Refer to
> section 6.2.3 of ISO/IEC9899:2018 (Name spaces of identifiers).
> 
> More importantly, macros also interfere with identifier scoping, e.g.
> you cannot even have a local variable with the same name as a macro.
> That's why I dislike macros so much.

Shadowing a global identifier like that would at best be considered poor
style, so I don't see this as a major downside.

> But since there's no clear policy regarding macros in the kernel, I'm
> merely showing a downside; it's perfectly fine to write kernel code
> like this as long as the maintainers agree that the limitation is
> acceptable and outweighed by the benefits.

Macros do have lots of tricky downsides, but in general we're not shy
about using them for things that can't be done otherwise; see
wait_event(), all of tracing...

I think we could in general do a job of making the macros _themselves_
more managable, when writing things that need to be macros I'll often
have just the wrapper as a macro and write the bulk as inline functions.
See the generic radix tree code for example.

Reflection is a major use case for macros, and the underlying mechanism
here - code tagging - is something worth talking about more, since it's
codifying something that's been done ad-hoc in the kernel for a long
time and something we hope to refactor other existing code to use,
including tracing - I've got a patch already written to convert the
dynamic debug code to code tagging; it's a nice -200 loc cleanup.

Regarding the alloc_hooks() macro itself specifically, I've got more
plans for it. I have another patch series after this one that implements
code tagging based fault injection, which is _far_ more ergonomic to use
than our existing fault injection capabilities (and this matters! Fault
injection is a really important tool for getting good test coverage, but
tools that are a pain in the ass to use don't get used) - and with the
alloc_hooks() macro already in place, we'll be able to turn _every
individual memory allocation callsite_ into a distinct, individually
selectable fault injection point - which is something our existing fault
injection framework attempts at but doesn't really manage.

If we can get this in, it'll make it really easy to write unit tests
that iterate over every memory allocation site in a given module,
individually telling them to fail, run a workload until they hit, and
verify that the code path being tested was executed. It'll nicely
complement the fuzz testing capabilities that we've been working on,
particularly in filesystem land.

      reply	other threads:[~2023-05-08 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-01 16:54 [PATCH 00/40] Memory allocation profiling Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 01/40] lib/string_helpers: Drop space in string_get_size's output Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 18:13   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2023-05-01 19:35     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-01 19:57       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-01 21:16         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-01 21:33         ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-05-02  0:11           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02  0:53         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02  2:22       ` James Bottomley
2023-05-02  3:17         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02  5:33           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-02  6:21             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02 15:19               ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-03  2:07                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03  6:30                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-03  7:12                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03  9:12                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-03  9:16                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02 11:42           ` James Bottomley
2023-05-02 22:50             ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-03  9:28               ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-05-03  9:44                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-05-03 12:15               ` James Bottomley
2023-05-02  7:55   ` Jani Nikula
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 02/40] scripts/kallysms: Always include __start and __stop symbols Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 03/40] fs: Convert alloc_inode_sb() to a macro Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 12:35   ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 19:57     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02 20:20       ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 04/40] nodemask: Split out include/linux/nodemask_types.h Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 05/40] prandom: Remove unused include Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 06/40] lib/string.c: strsep_no_empty() Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 12:37   ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 07/40] Lazy percpu counters Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 19:17   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 08/40] mm: introduce slabobj_ext to support slab object extensions Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 09/40] mm: introduce __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT flag to selectively prevent slabobj_ext creation Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 12:50   ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 18:33     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 10/40] mm/slab: introduce SLAB_NO_OBJ_EXT to avoid obj_ext creation Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 11/40] mm: prevent slabobj_ext allocations for slabobj_ext and kmem_cache objects Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 12/40] slab: objext: introduce objext_flags as extension to page_memcg_data_flags Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 13/40] lib: code tagging framework Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 14/40] lib: code tagging module support Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 15/40] lib: prevent module unloading if memory is not freed Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 16/40] lib: code tagging query helper functions Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 17/40] lib: add allocation tagging support for memory allocation profiling Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 18/40] lib: introduce support for page allocation tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 19/40] change alloc_pages name in dma_map_ops to avoid name conflicts Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 15:50   ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 18:38     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 20:09       ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 20:18         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-02 20:24         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 20:39           ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-02 20:41             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 16:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-03 18:03     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 20/40] mm: enable page allocation tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 21/40] mm/page_ext: enable early_page_ext when CONFIG_MEM_ALLOC_PROFILING_DEBUG=y Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 22/40] mm: create new codetag references during page splitting Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 23/40] lib: add codetag reference into slabobj_ext Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 24/40] mm/slab: add allocation accounting into slab allocation and free paths Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 25/40] mm/slab: enable slab allocation tagging for kmalloc and friends Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 26/40] mm/slub: Mark slab_free_freelist_hook() __always_inline Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 27/40] mempool: Hook up to memory allocation profiling Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 28/40] timekeeping: Fix a circular include dependency Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 15:50   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 29/40] mm: percpu: Introduce pcpuobj_ext Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 30/40] mm: percpu: Add codetag reference into pcpuobj_ext Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 31/40] mm: percpu: enable per-cpu allocation tagging Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 32/40] arm64: Fix circular header dependency Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 33/40] move stack capture functionality into a separate function for reuse Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 34/40] lib: code tagging context capture support Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03  7:35   ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-03 15:18     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 15:26       ` Dave Hansen
2023-05-03 19:45         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-04  8:04       ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-04 14:31         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 35/40] lib: implement context capture support for tagged allocations Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03  7:39   ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-03 15:24     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-04  8:09       ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-04 16:22         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-05  8:40           ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-05 18:10             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 36/40] lib: add memory allocations report in show_mem() Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 37/40] codetag: debug: skip objext checking when it's for objext itself Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 38/40] codetag: debug: mark codetags for reserved pages as empty Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 39/40] codetag: debug: introduce OBJEXTS_ALLOC_FAIL to mark failed slab_ext allocations Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 16:54 ` [PATCH 40/40] MAINTAINERS: Add entries for code tagging and memory allocation profiling Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 17:47 ` [PATCH 00/40] Memory " Roman Gushchin
2023-05-01 18:08   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 18:14     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-05-01 19:37       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-01 21:18         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-05-03  7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-03  7:34   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03  7:51     ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-03  8:05       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 13:21         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-03 16:35         ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 17:42           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 18:06             ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 17:44           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 17:51           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 18:24             ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 18:07           ` Johannes Weiner
2023-05-03 18:19             ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 18:40               ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 18:56                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 18:58                   ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 19:09                     ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 19:41                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 19:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 20:00                           ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 20:14                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-04  2:25                               ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-04  3:33                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-04  3:33                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-04  8:00                               ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-03 20:08                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 20:11                             ` Johannes Weiner
2023-05-04  2:16                             ` Tejun Heo
2023-05-03 20:04           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2023-05-03  9:50       ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-03  9:54         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 10:24           ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-03  9:57         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 10:26           ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-03 15:30             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 12:33           ` James Bottomley
2023-05-03 14:31             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 15:28             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 15:37               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-03 16:03                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-03 15:49               ` James Bottomley
2023-05-03 15:09   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 16:28     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-03 17:40       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 18:03         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-03 18:07           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 18:12           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-04  9:07     ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-04 15:08       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-07 10:27         ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-07 17:01           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-07 17:20       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-07 20:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-07 21:53           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-07 22:09             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-05-07 22:17               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-08 15:52         ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-08 15:57           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-08 16:09             ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-08 16:28               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-08 18:59                 ` Petr Tesařík
2023-05-08 20:48                   ` Kent Overstreet [this message]

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