From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
axboe@kernel.dk, brauner@kernel.org, christian.koenig@amd.com,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
jack@suse.cz, laura@labbott.name, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, minhquangbui99@gmail.com,
sumit.semwal@linaro.org,
syzbot+045b454ab35fd82a35fb@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] epoll: try to be a _bit_ better about file lifetimes
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 14:37:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjjO9kaRjT48Uyuc@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjoXgm=j=vt9S2dcMk3Ws6Z8ukibrEncFZcxh5n77F6Dg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 04:41:19PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, 3 May 2024 at 16:23, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > static bool __must_check get_dma_buf_unless_doomed(struct dma_buf *dmabuf)
> > {
> > return atomic_long_inc_not_zero(&dmabuf->file->f_count) != 0L;
> > }
> >
> > If we end up adding epi_fget(), we'll have 2 cases of using
> > "atomic_long_inc_not_zero" for f_count. Do we need some kind of blessed
> > helper to live in file.h or something, with appropriate comments?
>
> I wonder if we could try to abstract this out a bit more.
>
> These games with non-ref-counted file structures *feel* a bit like the
> games we play with non-ref-counted (aka "stashed") 'struct dentry'
> that got fairly recently cleaned up with path_from_stashed() when both
> nsfs and pidfs started doing the same thing.
>
> I'm not loving the TTM use of this thing, but at least the locking and
> logic feels a lot more straightforward (ie the
> atomic_long_inc_not_zero() here is clealy under the 'prime->mutex'
> lock
The one the vmgfx isn't really needed (I think at least), because all
other drivers that use gem or ttm use the dma_buf export cache in
drm/drm_prime.c, which is protected by a bog standard mutex.
vmwgfx is unfortunately special in a lot of ways due to somewhat parallel
dev history. So there might be an uapi reason why the weak reference is
required. I suspect because vmwgfx is reinventing a lot of its own wheels
it can't play the same tricks as gem_prime.c, which hooks into a few core
drm cleanup/release functions.
tldr; drm really has no architectural need for a get_file_unless_doomed,
and I certainly don't want to spread it it further than the vmwgfx
historical special case that was added in 2013.
-Sima
> IOW, the tty use looks correct to me, and it has fairly simple locking
> and is just catching the the race between 'fput()' decrementing the
> refcount and and 'file->f_op->release()' doing the actual release.
>
> You are right that it's similar to the epoll thing in that sense, it
> just looks a _lot_ more straightforward to me (and, unlike epoll,
> doesn't look actively buggy right now).
>
> Could we abstract out this kind of "stashed file pointer" so that we'd
> have a *common* form for this? Not just the inc_not_zero part, but the
> locking rule too?
>
> Linus
--
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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2024-05-03 11:54 ` [syzbot] [fs?] [io-uring?] general protection fault in __ep_remove Bui Quang Minh
2024-05-03 18:26 ` get_file() unsafe under epoll (was Re: [syzbot] [fs?] [io-uring?] general protection fault in __ep_remove) Kees Cook
2024-05-03 18:49 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-03 19:22 ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 19:35 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-03 19:59 ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 20:28 ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 21:11 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 21:30 ` Al Viro
2024-05-06 17:46 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2024-05-06 18:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08 8:47 ` David Laight
2024-05-03 21:36 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 21:53 ` Al Viro
2024-05-06 12:23 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-04 9:59 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-03 21:11 ` [PATCH] epoll: try to be a _bit_ better about file lifetimes Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 21:24 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 21:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 21:45 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 21:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 22:01 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 22:07 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 23:39 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 10:44 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-03 22:46 ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 23:03 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 23:23 ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 23:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 9:19 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-06 12:37 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2024-05-04 9:37 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-04 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 15:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 15:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 19:46 ` Al Viro
2024-05-05 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 20:30 ` Al Viro
2024-05-05 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-06 12:47 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-06 14:46 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-07 10:58 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-06 16:15 ` Christian König
2024-05-05 10:50 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-05 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 17:55 ` [PATCH v2] epoll: be " Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 18:04 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-05 20:01 ` David Laight
2024-05-05 20:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 20:12 ` [PATCH] epoll: try to be a _bit_ " Al Viro
2024-05-06 8:45 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-06 9:26 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-06 14:19 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-07 21:02 ` David Laight
2024-05-04 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-06 14:29 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Christian König
2024-05-07 11:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-07 17:45 ` Christian König
2024-05-08 7:51 ` Michel Dänzer
2024-05-08 7:59 ` Christian König
2024-05-08 8:23 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08 9:10 ` Christian König
2024-05-07 18:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08 5:55 ` Christian König
2024-05-08 8:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08 10:16 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08 8:05 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08 17:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 11:38 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-09 15:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-10 6:33 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08 10:08 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08 15:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-10 10:55 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-11 18:25 ` David Laight
2024-05-05 17:31 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-04 9:45 ` get_file() unsafe under epoll (was Re: [syzbot] [fs?] [io-uring?] general protection fault in __ep_remove) Christian Brauner
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