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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/10] Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:10:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41cc419e-48b5-6755-0cb0-9033bd1310e4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR11MB2662FFF6140A4C634648BB2E8C039@BYAPR11MB2662.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>


在 2021/6/28 下午1:54, Liu, Xiaodong 写道:
>> Several issues:
>>
>> - VDUSE needs to limit the total size of the bounce buffers (64M if I was not
>> wrong). Does it work for SPDK?
> Yes, Jason. It is enough and works for SPDK.
> Since it's a kind of bounce buffer mainly for in-flight IO, so limited size like
> 64MB is enough.


Ok.


>
>> - VDUSE can use hugepages but I'm not sure we can mandate hugepages (or we
>> need introduce new flags for supporting this)
> Same with your worry, I'm afraid too that it is a hard for a kernel module
> to directly preallocate hugepage internal.
> What I tried is that:
> 1. A simple agent daemon (represents for one device)  `preallocates` and maps
>      dozens of 2MB hugepages (like 64MB) for one device.
> 2. The daemon passes its mapping addr&len and hugepage fd to kernel
>      module through created IOCTL.
> 3. Kernel module remaps the hugepages inside kernel.


Such model should work, but the main "issue" is that it introduce  
overheads in the case of vhost-vDPA.

Note that in the case of vhost-vDPA, we don't use bounce buffer, the  
userspace pages were shared directly.

And since DMA is not done per page, it prevents us from using tricks  
like vm_insert_page() in those cases.


> 4. Vhost user target gets and maps hugepage fd from kernel module
>      in vhost-user msg through Unix Domain Socket cmsg.
> Then kernel module and target map on the same hugepage based
> bounce buffer for in-flight IO.
>
> If there is one option in VDUSE to map userspace preallocated memory, then
> VDUSE should be able to mandate it even it is hugepage based.
>

As above, this requires some kind of re-design since VDUSE depends on  
the model of mmap(MAP_SHARED) instead of umem registering.

Thanks

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-29  4:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-15 14:13 [PATCH v8 00/10] Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace Xie Yongji
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 01/10] iova: Export alloc_iova_fast() and free_iova_fast(); Xie Yongji
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 02/10] file: Export receive_fd() to modules Xie Yongji
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 03/10] eventfd: Increase the recursion depth of eventfd_signal() Xie Yongji
2021-06-17  8:33   ` He Zhe
2021-06-18  3:29     ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-18  8:41       ` He Zhe
2021-06-18  8:44       ` [PATCH] eventfd: Enlarge recursion limit to allow vhost to work He Zhe
2021-07-03  8:31         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-25  7:57         ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 04/10] vhost-iotlb: Add an opaque pointer for vhost IOTLB Xie Yongji
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 05/10] vdpa: Add an opaque pointer for vdpa_config_ops.dma_map() Xie Yongji
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 06/10] vdpa: factor out vhost_vdpa_pa_map() and vhost_vdpa_pa_unmap() Xie Yongji
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 07/10] vdpa: Support transferring virtual addressing during DMA mapping Xie Yongji
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 08/10] vduse: Implement an MMU-based IOMMU driver Xie Yongji
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 09/10] vduse: Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace Xie Yongji
2021-06-21  9:13   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-21 10:41     ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-22  5:06       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-22  7:22         ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-22  7:49           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-22  8:14             ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-23  3:30               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-23  5:50                 ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-24  3:34                   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-24  4:46                     ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-24  8:13                       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-24  9:16                         ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-25  3:08                           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-25  4:19                             ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-28  4:40                               ` Jason Wang
2021-06-29  2:26                                 ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-29  3:29                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-29  3:56                                     ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-29  4:03                                       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-24 14:46   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-06-29  2:59     ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-30  9:51       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-01  6:50         ` Yongji Xie
2021-07-01  7:55           ` Jason Wang
2021-07-01 10:26             ` Yongji Xie
2021-07-02  3:25               ` Jason Wang
2021-07-07  8:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-07  9:19     ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-15 14:13 ` [PATCH v8 10/10] Documentation: Add documentation for VDUSE Xie Yongji
2021-06-24 13:01   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-06-29  5:43     ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-30 10:06       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-01 10:00         ` Yongji Xie
2021-07-01 13:15           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-04  9:49             ` Yongji Xie
2021-07-05  3:36               ` Jason Wang
2021-07-05 12:49                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-06  2:34                   ` Jason Wang
2021-07-06 10:14                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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     [not found]                           ` <100e6788-7fdf-1505-d69c-bc28a8bc7a78@redhat.com>
     [not found]                             ` <YOVr801d01YOPzLL@stefanha-x1.localdomain>
2021-07-07  9:24                               ` Jason Wang
2021-07-07 15:54                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-08  4:17                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-07-08  9:06                                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-08 12:35                                       ` Yongji Xie
2021-07-06  3:04                   ` Yongji Xie
2021-07-06 10:22                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-07  9:09                       ` Yongji Xie
2021-07-08  9:07                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-06-24 15:12 ` [PATCH v8 00/10] Introduce VDUSE - vDPA Device in Userspace Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-06-29  3:15   ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-28 10:33 ` Liu Xiaodong
2021-06-28  4:35   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-28  5:54     ` Liu, Xiaodong
2021-06-29  4:10       ` Jason Wang [this message]
2021-06-29  7:56         ` Liu, Xiaodong
2021-06-29  8:14           ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-28 10:32   ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-29  4:12     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-29  6:40       ` Yongji Xie
2021-06-29  7:33         ` Jason Wang

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