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From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Alan C. Assis" <acassis@gmail.com>,
	"Bjørn Forsman" <bjorn.forsman@gmail.com>,
	"Kai Tomerius" <kai@tomerius.de>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	"Ext4 Developers List" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Nobarrier mount option (was: Re: File system robustness)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:51:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4918028.0VBMTVartN@lichtvoll.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230721133526.GF5764@mit.edu>

Theodore Ts'o - 21.07.23, 15:35:26 CEST:
> > At least that is what I thought was the background for not doing the
> > "nobarrier" thing anymore: Let the storage below decide whether it
> > is safe to basically ignore cache flushes by answering them (almost)
> > immediately.
> 
> The problem is that the storage below (e.g., the HDD) has no idea that
> all of this redundancy exists.  Only the system adminsitrator who is
> configuring the file sysetm will know.  And if you are runninig a
> hyper-scale cloud system, this kind of custom made system will be
> much, MUCH, cheaper than buying a huge number of $$$ EMC storage
> arrays.

Okay, that is reasonable.

Thanks for explaining.

-- 
Martin



  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-21 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230717075035.GA9549@tomerius.de>
2023-07-17  9:08 ` File system robustness Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] ` <CAG4Y6eTU=WsTaSowjkKT-snuvZwqWqnH3cdgGoCkToH02qEkgg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20230718053017.GB6042@tomerius.de>
2023-07-18 12:56     ` Alan C. Assis
     [not found]     ` <CAEYzJUGC8Yj1dQGsLADT+pB-mkac0TAC-typAORtX7SQ1kVt+g@mail.gmail.com>
2023-07-18 13:04       ` Alan C. Assis
2023-07-18 14:47         ` Chris
2023-07-18 21:32         ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-19  6:22           ` Martin Steigerwald
2023-07-20  4:20             ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-20  7:55               ` Nobarrier mount option (was: Re: File system robustness) Martin Steigerwald
2023-07-21 13:35                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-21 14:51                   ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2023-07-19 10:51           ` File system robustness Kai Tomerius
2023-07-20  4:41             ` Theodore Ts'o

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