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* [PATCH] sched/doc: Update documentation for base_slice_ns and CONFIG_HZ relation
@ 2024-03-20 17:38 Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
  2024-03-21 14:55 ` Randy Dunlap
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya @ 2024-03-20 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: linux-doc; +Cc: corbet, mingo, linux-kernel, Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya

The tunable base_slice_ns is dependent on CONFIG_HZ (i.e. TICK_NSEC)
for any significant performance improvement. The reason being the
scheduler tick is not frequent enough to force preemption when
base_slice expires in case of

           base_slice_ns < TICK_NSEC

The below data is of stress-ng
Number of CPU: 1
Stressor threads: 4
Time: 30sec

On CONFIG_HZ=1000

| base_slice | avg-run (msec) | context-switches |
| ---------- | -------------- | ---------------- |
| 3ms        | 2.914          | 10342            |
| 6ms        | 4.857          | 6196             |
| 9ms        | 6.754          | 4482             |
| 12ms       | 7.872          | 3802             |
| 22ms       | 11.294         | 2710             |
| 32ms       | 13.425         | 2284             |

On CONFIG_HZ=100

| base_slice | avg-run (msec) | context-switches |
| ---------- | -------------- | ---------------- |
| 3ms        | 9.144          | 3337             |
| 6ms        | 9.113          | 3301             |
| 9ms        | 8.991          | 3315             |
| 12ms       | 12.935         | 2328             |
| 22ms       | 16.031         | 1915             |
| 32ms       | 18.608         | 1622             |

base_slice: the value of base_slice in ms
avg-run (msec): average time of the stressor threads got on cpu before
it got preempted
context-switches: number of context switches for the stress-ng process

Signed-off-by: Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya <mchauras@linux.ibm.com>
---
 Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst | 3 +++
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst
index 6cffffe26500..82985d675554 100644
--- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst
+++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst
@@ -100,6 +100,9 @@ which can be used to tune the scheduler from "desktop" (i.e., low latencies) to
 "server" (i.e., good batching) workloads.  It defaults to a setting suitable
 for desktop workloads.  SCHED_BATCH is handled by the CFS scheduler module too.
 
+In case the CONFIG_HZ leads to base_slice_ns < TICK_NSEC. The settings of
+base_slice_ns will have little to no impact on the workloads.
+
 Due to its design, the CFS scheduler is not prone to any of the "attacks" that
 exist today against the heuristics of the stock scheduler: fiftyp.c, thud.c,
 chew.c, ring-test.c, massive_intr.c all work fine and do not impact
-- 
2.44.0


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* Re: [PATCH] sched/doc: Update documentation for base_slice_ns and CONFIG_HZ relation
  2024-03-20 17:38 [PATCH] sched/doc: Update documentation for base_slice_ns and CONFIG_HZ relation Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
@ 2024-03-21 14:55 ` Randy Dunlap
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Randy Dunlap @ 2024-03-21 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya, linux-doc; +Cc: corbet, mingo, linux-kernel

Hi,

On 3/20/24 10:38, Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya wrote:
> The tunable base_slice_ns is dependent on CONFIG_HZ (i.e. TICK_NSEC)
> for any significant performance improvement. The reason being the
> scheduler tick is not frequent enough to force preemption when
> base_slice expires in case of
> 
>            base_slice_ns < TICK_NSEC
> 
> The below data is of stress-ng
> Number of CPU: 1
> Stressor threads: 4
> Time: 30sec
> 
> On CONFIG_HZ=1000
> 
> | base_slice | avg-run (msec) | context-switches |
> | ---------- | -------------- | ---------------- |
> | 3ms        | 2.914          | 10342            |
> | 6ms        | 4.857          | 6196             |
> | 9ms        | 6.754          | 4482             |
> | 12ms       | 7.872          | 3802             |
> | 22ms       | 11.294         | 2710             |
> | 32ms       | 13.425         | 2284             |
> 
> On CONFIG_HZ=100
> 
> | base_slice | avg-run (msec) | context-switches |
> | ---------- | -------------- | ---------------- |
> | 3ms        | 9.144          | 3337             |
> | 6ms        | 9.113          | 3301             |
> | 9ms        | 8.991          | 3315             |
> | 12ms       | 12.935         | 2328             |
> | 22ms       | 16.031         | 1915             |
> | 32ms       | 18.608         | 1622             |
> 
> base_slice: the value of base_slice in ms
> avg-run (msec): average time of the stressor threads got on cpu before
> it got preempted
> context-switches: number of context switches for the stress-ng process
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya <mchauras@linux.ibm.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst | 3 +++
>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst
> index 6cffffe26500..82985d675554 100644
> --- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-design-CFS.rst
> @@ -100,6 +100,9 @@ which can be used to tune the scheduler from "desktop" (i.e., low latencies) to
>  "server" (i.e., good batching) workloads.  It defaults to a setting suitable
>  for desktop workloads.  SCHED_BATCH is handled by the CFS scheduler module too.
>  
> +In case the CONFIG_HZ leads to base_slice_ns < TICK_NSEC. The settings of

                                                  TICK_NSEC, the {setting, value}

> +base_slice_ns will have little to no impact on the workloads.
> +
>  Due to its design, the CFS scheduler is not prone to any of the "attacks" that
>  exist today against the heuristics of the stock scheduler: fiftyp.c, thud.c,
>  chew.c, ring-test.c, massive_intr.c all work fine and do not impact

-- 
#Randy

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