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From: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@canonical.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: hch@lst.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, sashal@kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Francis Ginther <francis.ginther@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [v5.15 Regression] block: rename GENHD_FL_NO_PART_SCAN to GENHD_FL_NO_PART
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 11:02:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b167caba-0e6c-4f95-9ade-76d352f9e676@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2024040407-bucket-sank-25a4@gregkh>



On 4/4/24 01:13, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 08:40:00PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 02:06:28PM -0400, Joseph Salisbury wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/3/24 13:54, Greg KH wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 01:50:09PM -0400, Joseph Salisbury wrote:
>>>>> Hi Christoph,
>>>>>
>>>>> A kernel bug report was opened against Ubuntu [0].  This bug is a regression
>>>>> introduced in mainline version v5.17-rc1 and made it's way into v5.15 stable
>>>>> updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> The following commit was identified as the cause of the regression in 5.15:
>>>>>
>>>>> c6ce1c5dd327 ("block: rename GENHD_FL_NO_PART_SCAN to GENHD_FL_NO_PART")
>>>> How is renaming a define a "regression"?
>>> The "regression" is experienced after upgrading to the kernel to the version
>>> that introduced this commit.
>>> The v5.15.131 kernel works as expected, upgrading the kernel to v5.15.132
>>> breaks behavior that worked in a prior kernel version.
>>> Reverting commit c6ce1c5dd327 in v5.15.132 allows the experience to be as
>>> before in v5.15.131.
>> What "experience" are you talking about here?  Please be specific.  What
>> exactly "broke", what is the build error that happens?
>>
>>>>> I was hoping to get your feedback, since you are the patch author. Is the
>>>>> best approach to revert this commit, since many third parties rely on the
>>>>> name being GENHD_FL_NO_PART_SCAN in kernel headers?
>>>> External kernel modules are never an issue.  Is this a userspace thing?
>>>>
>>>>>    Is there a specific need that you know of that requires this commit
>>>>> in the 5.15 and earlier stable kernels?
>>>> Yes.  And Christoph did not do the backport, so I doubt he cares :)
>>>>
>>>> Again, what in-kernel issue is caused by this?
>>> Third party code that relies on the kernel-headers will no longer compile
>>> due to the name change.  Should we not care if we break things, even in
>>> userspace?
>> Is this userspace, or is it kernel drivers?
>>
>> If kernel drivers, you know that there  s no stable kernel api, we
>> rename and change things all the time, even in stable kernel trees, for
>> good reasons (see the set of patches that were applied that contained
>> this change.)  Do you want to have unfixed security issues, or do you
>> want a secure kernel that happens to rename variables at times?
> Given the lack of response, I am going to assume that this means you are
> referring to out-of-tree kernel code and this is not a real "regression"
> at all.
>
> greg k-h
I now know that the kernel internal interface changes all the time in 
stable, and it cannot take into account out of tree modules.  I will 
always keep this in mind in the future.  Thanks for all the assistance!

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-04 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03 17:50 [v5.15 Regression] block: rename GENHD_FL_NO_PART_SCAN to GENHD_FL_NO_PART Joseph Salisbury
2024-04-03 17:54 ` Greg KH
2024-04-03 18:06   ` Joseph Salisbury
2024-04-03 18:40     ` Greg KH
2024-04-04  5:13       ` Greg KH
2024-04-04 15:02         ` Joseph Salisbury [this message]
2024-04-03 18:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-03 18:10   ` Joseph Salisbury

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