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From: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
To: Venkatesh Srinivas <venkateshs@chromium.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: AMD's IBPB is not equivalent to Intel's IBPB
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 19:57:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMp9eSBNjSXgsbhau-c68Ow_YoLvWBK6oUc1v1DqSfmDskmhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA0tLEor+Sqn6YjYdJWEs5+b9uPdaqQwDPChh1YEGWBi2NAAAw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 6:32 PM Venkatesh Srinivas
<venkateshs@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 1:59 PM Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > From Intel's documention [1], "CPUID.(EAX=07H,ECX=0):EDX[26]
> > enumerates support for indirect branch restricted speculation (IBRS)
> > and the indirect branch predictor barrier (IBPB)." Further, from [2],
> > "Software that executed before the IBPB command cannot control the
> > predicted targets of indirect branches (4) executed after the command
> > on the same logical processor," where footnote 4 reads, "Note that
> > indirect branches include near call indirect, near jump indirect and
> > near return instructions. Because it includes near returns, it follows
> > that **RSB entries created before an IBPB command cannot control the
> > predicted targets of returns executed after the command on the same
> > logical processor.**" [emphasis mine]
> >
> > On the other hand, AMD's "IBPB may not prevent return branch
> > predictions from being specified by pre-IBPB branch targets" [3].
> >
> > Since Linux sets the synthetic feature bit, X86_FEATURE_IBPB, on AMD
> > CPUs that implement the weaker version of IBPB, it is incorrect to
> > infer from this and X86_FEATURE_IBRS that the CPU supports the
> > stronger version of IBPB indicated by CPUID.(EAX=07H,ECX=0):EDX[26].
>
> AMD's IBPB does apply to RET predictions if Fn8000_0008_EBX[IBPB_RET] = 1.
> Spot checking, Zen4 sets that bit; and the bulletin doesn't apply there.

So, with a definition of X86_FEATURE_AMD_IBPB_RET, this could be:

       if (boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_AMD_IBPB_RET) &&
boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_IBRS))
               kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_SPEC_CTRL);

And, in the other direction,

    if (boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_SPEC_CTRL))
        kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_AMD_IBPB_RET);

But, perhaps all of this cross-vendor equivalence logic belongs in user space.

> (Also checking - IA32_SPEC_CTRL and IA32_PRED_CMD are both still
> available; is there anything in KVM that keys off just X86_FEATURE_SPEC_CTRL?
> I'm not seeing it...)

I hope not. It looks like all of the guest_cpuid checks for SPEC_CTRL
also check for the AMD bits (e.g. guest_has_spec_ctrl_msr()).

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-12  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-11 20:58 [PATCH] KVM: x86: AMD's IBPB is not equivalent to Intel's IBPB Jim Mattson
2024-04-12  1:32 ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2024-04-12  2:57   ` Jim Mattson [this message]
2024-05-07 20:32     ` Jim Mattson
2024-05-08 15:42       ` Sean Christopherson

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