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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
Cc: "jgg@nvidia.com" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"eric.auger@redhat.com" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"nicolinc@nvidia.com" <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com" <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"baolu.lu@linux.intel.com" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 4/4] vfio: Report PASID capability via VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE ioctl
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 07:09:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB5276D245515E81844B5EC1068C0F2@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240416115722.78d4509f.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

> From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 1:57 AM
> 
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 01:21:21 -0700
> Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > + */
> > +struct vfio_device_feature_pasid {
> > +	__u16 capabilities;
> > +#define VFIO_DEVICE_PASID_CAP_EXEC	(1 << 0)
> > +#define VFIO_DEVICE_PASID_CAP_PRIV	(1 << 1)
> > +	__u8 width;
> > +	__u8 __reserved;
> > +};
> 
> Building on Kevin's comment on the cover letter, if we could describe
> an offset for emulating a PASID capability, this seems like the place
> we'd do it.  I think we're not doing that because we'd like an in-band
> mechanism for a device to report unused config space, such as a DVSEC
> capability, so that it can be implemented on a physical device.  As
> noted in the commit log here, we'd also prefer not to bloat the kernel
> with more device quirks.
> 
> In an ideal world we might be able to jump start support of that DVSEC
> option by emulating the DVSEC capability on top of the PASID capability
> for PFs, but unfortunately the PASID capability is 8 bytes while the
> DVSEC capability is at least 12 bytes, so we can't implement that
> generically either.

Yeah, that's a problem.

> 
> I don't know there's any good solution here or whether there's actually
> any value to the PASID capability on a PF, but do we need to consider
> leaving a field+flag here to describe the offset for that scenario?

Yes, I prefer to this way.

> Would we then allow variant drivers to take advantage of it?  Does this
> then turn into the quirk that we're trying to avoid in the kernel
> rather than userspace and is that a problem?  Thanks,
> 

We don't want to proactively pursue quirks in the kernel.

But if a variant driver exists for other reasons, I don't see why it 
should be prohibited from deciding an offset to ease the
userspace. 😊

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-17  7:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-12  8:21 [PATCH v2 0/4] vfio-pci support pasid attach/detach Yi Liu
2024-04-12  8:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] ida: Add ida_get_lowest() Yi Liu
2024-04-16 16:03   ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-18  7:02     ` Yi Liu
2024-04-18 16:23       ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-18 17:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-19 13:43           ` Yi Liu
2024-04-19 13:55             ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-19 14:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-23  7:19                 ` Yi Liu
2024-04-19 13:40         ` Yi Liu
2024-04-12  8:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] vfio-iommufd: Support pasid [at|de]tach for physical VFIO devices Yi Liu
2024-04-16  9:01   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-16  9:24     ` Yi Liu
2024-04-16  9:47       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-18  7:04         ` Yi Liu
2024-04-23 12:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24  0:33     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24  4:48     ` Yi Liu
2024-04-12  8:21 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] vfio: Add VFIO_DEVICE_PASID_[AT|DE]TACH_IOMMUFD_PT Yi Liu
2024-04-16  9:13   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-16  9:36     ` Yi Liu
2024-04-23 12:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-12  8:21 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] vfio: Report PASID capability via VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE ioctl Yi Liu
2024-04-16  9:40   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-16 17:57   ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-17  7:09     ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2024-04-17 20:25       ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-18  0:21         ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-18  8:23           ` Yi Liu
2024-04-18 16:34           ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-23 12:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24  0:24     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24 13:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-16  8:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] vfio-pci support pasid attach/detach Tian, Kevin
2024-04-16 17:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-17  7:16     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-17 12:20       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-17 23:02         ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-18  0:06           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-18  9:03             ` Yi Liu
2024-04-18 20:37               ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-19  5:52                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-19 16:35                   ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-23  7:43                     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-23 12:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-23 23:47                         ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24  0:12                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24  2:57                             ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24 12:29                               ` Baolu Lu
2024-04-24 14:04                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24  5:19                             ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-24 14:15                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 18:38                                 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-24 18:45                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 18:24                             ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-24 18:36                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 20:13                                 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-26 14:11                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-26 20:13                                     ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-28  6:19                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-29  7:43                                         ` Yi Liu
2024-04-29 17:15                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-29 17:44                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-27  5:05                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-25  9:26                               ` Yi Liu
2024-04-25 12:58                                 ` Alex Williamson
2024-04-26  9:01                                   ` Yi Liu
2024-04-19 13:59                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-23  7:58                   ` Yi Liu
2024-04-23 12:05                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-19 13:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe

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