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From: "Peter Huewe" <PeterHuewe@gmx.de>
To: Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Deprecation / Removal of old hardware support
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:04:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-b7dcc7ee-84eb-4ba9-ab94-b2936551a388-1536588284133@3c-app-gmx-bs33> (raw)

Hi,

one topic I would like to discuss is: when is it time to remove support for old hardware?
Should we support as much hardware as possible forever, or does it make sense to cut down the support?
If so, when would be appropriate?

One concrete example is in the TPM subsystem - we have support for TPM1.1b based devices there, which haven't been manufactured since probably 10 years.
These still compile, load and probably function well enough but are not really tested or reviewed on a regular basis.
Maybe they even have some issues, security or otherwise.

We haven't removed them yet, despite plans to do so, as there still might be some users out there.
This lead to more a complicated code for the 'generic' tpm drivers as they still have to support 'old' workarounds.

I think the same applies to the whole kernel in general and other subsystems - do we have to much old code lying around, waiting to rot and blocking better code?
How should we aproach phasing out support for old hardware?


Thanks,
Peter

             reply	other threads:[~2018-09-10 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-10 14:04 Peter Huewe [this message]
2018-09-10 15:31 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Deprecation / Removal of old hardware support Linus Walleij
2018-09-10 21:40   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-10 22:02     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11  8:49       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-11 17:27         ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 17:58           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-11 18:27             ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 18:37               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-11  8:37     ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-11  9:37       ` Lukasz Majewski
2018-09-11 19:33         ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 21:39           ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-11 21:50             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-12  6:40               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-12 10:23                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-12  6:26             ` Greg KH
2018-09-12  6:49               ` Peter Huewe
2018-09-12  7:07                 ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 10:52       ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 11:22         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]           ` <TY2PR0101MB2526376DEFC241B754A19A6AE21C0@TY2PR0101MB2526.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2018-09-27 15:25             ` SZ Lin (林上智)
2018-09-28 10:45               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-11 11:53       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-11 21:28         ` Alexander Sverdlin
2018-09-11 21:16       ` Alexander Sverdlin

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