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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  ps@pks.im
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] refs: add 'update-symref' command to 'update-ref'
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2024 13:40:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqsf0495q1.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqv851awgq.fsf@gitster.g> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Mon, 01 Apr 2024 09:17:41 -0700")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

>> But this still means we need to think of the best output for the
>> reference transaction hook (following commit).
>> ...

One thing I missed.  We are not currently reporting symref updates
to these hooks.  Are they prepared to take such extra input?  If not,
are they going to barf when they see "symref-update" while expecting
to see <old-oid>?

We may need to make it possible for Git to tell which variant of the
hook script it was given somehow (the easiest cop-out is to introduce
ref-transaction-hook-v2 as a separate hook, and use it if exists, or
fall back to the reference-transaction hook, and report symref updates
only when we are using v2, but there may be better approaches).

> But this is not an end-user input that tells Git "I do not care
> about precondition, I did not even bother to learn the current state
> to give you as <old-something>, just force it".  The input to hook
> is what we tell the hook what we are planning to do (so that it can
> decline), and we do not need the ability to say "I do not know what
> the current state is".  So I do not think you need any "zero" value
> in the input to the reference-transaction hook.  And I do not see a
> need for the "symref-update-forced" variant, either.

I misspoke here.  We do need "zero" value to indicate that "this
update is a creation event" and "this update is a deletion event".
What I meant to say is that there is no need to make the "zero"
value distinguishable from a "missing optional" value, which was a
problem on the "--stdin" side with "-z" format, where each command
is in a format with fixed number of parameters, unlike the textual
format, where a missing optional argument can be expressed by
omitting SP before the value and the value itself and it can be
differentiated from an empty string as an optional value that is not
missing.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-01 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 194+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-30 22:46 [PATCH 0/8] update-ref: add support for update-symref option Karthik Nayak
2024-03-30 22:46 ` [PATCH 1/8] files-backend: extract out `create_symref_lock` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-02 12:20   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-03 14:52     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-03-30 22:46 ` [PATCH 2/8] reftable-backend: extract out `write_symref_with_log` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-02 12:20   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-30 22:46 ` [PATCH 3/8] reftable-backend: move `write_symref_with_log` up Karthik Nayak
2024-03-30 22:46 ` [PATCH 4/8] refs: accept symref in `ref_transaction_add_update` Karthik Nayak
2024-03-30 22:46 ` [PATCH 5/8] refs/files-backend: add support for symref updates Karthik Nayak
2024-04-02 12:20   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-30 22:46 ` [PATCH 6/8] refs/reftable-backend: " Karthik Nayak
2024-04-02 12:20   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-30 22:46 ` [PATCH 7/8] refs: add 'update-symref' command to 'update-ref' Karthik Nayak
2024-03-31 22:08   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-31 22:27     ` Chris Torek
2024-03-31 23:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-01  1:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-02 12:20           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-02 16:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-09 11:55               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-09 16:15                 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-10  4:20                   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-10 16:06                     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-10 17:31                       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-01 10:38       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-01 11:48     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-01 16:17       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-01 20:40         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-04-01 22:37         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-03-30 22:46 ` [PATCH 8/8] refs: support symrefs in 'reference-transaction' hook Karthik Nayak
2024-04-02 12:20   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-12  9:59 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] update-ref: add symref oriented commands Karthik Nayak
2024-04-12  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] refs: accept symref values in `ref_transaction[_add]_update` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-18 14:25     ` Christian Couder
2024-04-19 10:28       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-18 15:08     ` Phillip Wood
2024-04-19  9:40       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-19 15:47       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-04 15:15         ` phillip.wood123
2024-04-19  9:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-19 18:09       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23  6:31         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-23 10:48           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-12  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] update-ref: add support for symref-verify Karthik Nayak
2024-04-18 14:26     ` Christian Couder
2024-04-19 21:21       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-19  9:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-19 21:53       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-12  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] update-ref: add support for symref-delete Karthik Nayak
2024-04-18 14:52     ` Christian Couder
2024-04-21 10:43       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-19  9:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-21 10:45       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-12  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] files-backend: extract out `create_symref_lock` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-12  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] update-ref: add support for symref-create Karthik Nayak
2024-04-19  9:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-19 15:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-21 12:50       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-21 15:57         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23  6:39         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-23 10:52           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-12  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] update-ref: add support for symref-update Karthik Nayak
2024-04-19  9:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-21 19:00       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23  6:49         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-23 11:30           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-12  9:59   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] refs: support symrefs in 'reference-transaction' hook Karthik Nayak
2024-04-12 18:01   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] update-ref: add symref oriented commands Junio C Hamano
2024-04-12 18:49     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-18 15:05   ` Christian Couder
2024-04-21 19:06     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-20  6:16   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-21 19:11     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28   ` [PATCH v3 0/8] refs: add symref support to 'git-update-ref' Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28     ` [PATCH v3 1/8] refs: accept symref values in `ref_transaction[_add]_update` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28     ` [PATCH v3 2/8] update-ref: support parsing ref targets in `parse_next_oid` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28     ` [PATCH v3 3/8] files-backend: extract out `create_symref_lock` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28     ` [PATCH v3 4/8] update-ref: support symrefs in the verify command Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28     ` [PATCH v3 5/8] update-ref: support symrefs in the delete command Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28     ` [PATCH v3 6/8] update-ref: support symrefs in the create command Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28     ` [PATCH v3 7/8] update-ref: support symrefs in the update command Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 21:28     ` [PATCH v3 8/8] ref: support symrefs in 'reference-transaction' hook Karthik Nayak
2024-04-23 22:03     ` [PATCH v3 0/8] refs: add symref support to 'git-update-ref' Jeff King
2024-04-24  1:17       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-24 16:25       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-25  6:40         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-25 21:12           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-25 18:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-25 21:14           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-25 21:55             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-26 12:48               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 20:41         ` Jeff King
2024-04-25 17:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-25 21:07       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 15:24     ` [PATCH v4 0/7] add symref-* commands to 'git-update-ref --stdin' Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 15:24       ` [PATCH v4 1/7] refs: accept symref values in `ref_transaction[_add]_update` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 19:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-26 21:15           ` Jeff King
2024-04-29  7:02             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-29  7:55               ` Jeff King
2024-04-29  9:29                 ` phillip.wood123
2024-04-29  9:32             ` phillip.wood123
2024-04-29 16:18               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-30 10:33                 ` Jeff King
2024-04-30 10:30               ` Jeff King
2024-04-28 19:36           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-29 13:38         ` Phillip Wood
2024-04-29 14:01           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 15:24       ` [PATCH v4 2/7] files-backend: extract out `create_symref_lock` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 21:39         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-28 19:57           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 15:24       ` [PATCH v4 3/7] update-ref: add support for 'symref-verify' command Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 22:51         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-28 22:28           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 15:24       ` [PATCH v4 4/7] update-ref: add support for 'symref-delete' command Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 15:24       ` [PATCH v4 5/7] update-ref: add support for 'symref-create' command Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 15:24       ` [PATCH v4 6/7] update-ref: add support for 'symref-update' command Karthik Nayak
2024-04-26 15:24       ` [PATCH v4 7/7] ref: support symrefs in 'reference-transaction' hook Karthik Nayak
2024-04-30 10:14       ` [PATCH v4 0/7] add symref-* commands to 'git-update-ref --stdin' Karthik Nayak
2024-05-01 20:22       ` [PATCH v5 0/7] refs: add support for transactional symref updates Karthik Nayak
2024-05-01 20:22         ` [PATCH v5 1/7] refs: accept symref values in `ref_transaction_update()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-01 20:22         ` [PATCH v5 2/7] files-backend: extract out `create_symref_lock()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-01 22:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-02  7:47             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02 11:05               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-02 16:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-01 20:22         ` [PATCH v5 3/7] refs: support symrefs in 'reference-transaction' hook Karthik Nayak
2024-05-01 23:05           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-02  5:32             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-01 20:22         ` [PATCH v5 4/7] refs: add support for transactional symref updates Karthik Nayak
2024-05-01 23:52           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-02  5:50             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-02  7:47               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02 11:10                 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-02 16:51                 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-02 16:00               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-02 17:53           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-01 20:22         ` [PATCH v5 5/7] refs: use transaction in `refs_create_symref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-02  7:47           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-01 20:22         ` [PATCH v5 6/7] refs: rename `refs_create_symref()` to `refs_update_symref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-02  7:47           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02 11:34             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-01 20:22         ` [PATCH v5 7/7] refs: remove `create_symref` and associated dead code Karthik Nayak
2024-05-02  7:47           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-02 16:53             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-02  0:20         ` [PATCH v5 0/7] refs: add support for transactional symref updates Junio C Hamano
2024-05-02  5:53           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 12:41         ` [PATCH v6 " Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 12:41           ` [PATCH v6 1/7] refs: accept symref values in `ref_transaction_update()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-04 15:18             ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-05 15:10               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-05 15:19                 ` phillip.wood123
2024-05-03 12:41           ` [PATCH v6 2/7] files-backend: extract out `create_symref_lock()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 12:41           ` [PATCH v6 3/7] refs: support symrefs in 'reference-transaction' hook Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 12:41           ` [PATCH v6 4/7] refs: add support for transactional symref updates Karthik Nayak
2024-05-05 14:09             ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-05 16:09               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-06  9:35                 ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-06 11:19                   ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-06 13:19                     ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-06  9:54                 ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-06 11:22                   ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-06 13:17                     ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-03 12:41           ` [PATCH v6 5/7] refs: use transaction in `refs_create_symref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 12:41           ` [PATCH v6 6/7] refs: rename `refs_create_symref()` to `refs_update_symref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 12:41           ` [PATCH v6 7/7] refs: remove `create_symref` and associated dead code Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 23:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-04  9:30               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 16:45           ` [PATCH v6 0/7] refs: add support for transactional symref updates Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06  7:36           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07  6:00           ` [PATCH v7 0/8] " Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:00             ` [PATCH v7 1/8] refs: accept symref values in `ref_transaction_update()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:00             ` [PATCH v7 2/8] files-backend: extract out `create_symref_lock()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:00             ` [PATCH v7 3/8] refs: support symrefs in 'reference-transaction' hook Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:00             ` [PATCH v7 4/8] refs: move `original_update_refname` to 'refs.c' Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:00             ` [PATCH v7 5/8] refs: add support for transactional symref updates Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:00             ` [PATCH v7 6/8] refs: use transaction in `refs_create_symref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:00             ` [PATCH v7 7/8] refs: rename `refs_create_symref()` to `refs_update_symref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:00             ` [PATCH v7 8/8] refs: remove `create_symref` and associated dead code Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07  6:25             ` [PATCH v7 0/8] refs: add support for transactional symref updates Junio C Hamano
2024-05-07  6:31               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-07 12:58             ` [PATCH v8 " Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 12:58               ` [PATCH v8 1/8] refs: accept symref values in `ref_transaction_update()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 12:58               ` [PATCH v8 2/8] files-backend: extract out `create_symref_lock()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 12:58               ` [PATCH v8 3/8] refs: support symrefs in 'reference-transaction' hook Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 12:58               ` [PATCH v8 4/8] refs: move `original_update_refname` to 'refs.c' Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 12:58               ` [PATCH v8 5/8] refs: add support for transactional symref updates Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 12:58               ` [PATCH v8 6/8] refs: use transaction in `refs_create_symref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 12:58               ` [PATCH v8 7/8] refs: rename `refs_create_symref()` to `refs_update_symref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 12:58               ` [PATCH v8 8/8] refs: remove `create_symref` and associated dead code Karthik Nayak
2024-05-07 15:50               ` [PATCH v8 0/8] refs: add support for transactional symref updates phillip.wood123
2024-05-07 16:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-12 17:17                 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-13 17:15                   ` Junio C Hamano

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