From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-wr1-f51.google.com (mail-wr1-f51.google.com [209.85.221.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E926154BF9 for ; Fri, 3 May 2024 15:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=209.85.221.51 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1714751315; cv=none; b=r3Ndo5ubFRtQNWcPyEK2FgHWsaL4BVMzKTqZ2wSPpM8GcWU3LntU8Uhn7OLQKAgEDCXWTkOvWbALN6XPdGM7ONGB6XexkLihyFl1qCzBLyydT9QD5k/YLbAIUYpzUbxkqKS3i/NiEhEUeockAOgIqfOfNjrGJCERIk7oO2GlBsM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1714751315; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ClQC8VSlvKJBh2I6Ccj/0WRIQBZ2rOynUTgahFNzYpA=; h=MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject: To:Cc:Content-Type; b=gNvXslWbzGWG49zw2SgCDdCa612PHZx3hZpRMvNrWx9o+oCz17rQiyasjc9aHmehNh6EEK5I2bnUxXiXcQH7BPGCrektipABmbj3V4ow6G8UVQtr+lOOjdCP/iaRznO+EcPqJnbI688u+Jdlsnt9iclZQK5hEj8149Y5fjwjSpk= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=google.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=google.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com header.i=@google.com header.b=zeN7QxLw; arc=none smtp.client-ip=209.85.221.51 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=google.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=google.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com header.i=@google.com header.b="zeN7QxLw" Received: by mail-wr1-f51.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-349545c3eb8so5940311f8f.2 for ; Fri, 03 May 2024 08:48:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20230601; t=1714751312; x=1715356112; darn=vger.kernel.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=ClQC8VSlvKJBh2I6Ccj/0WRIQBZ2rOynUTgahFNzYpA=; b=zeN7QxLwL/ZkYlzdBisse5QMzg5ENpXCiq0eusUXNBa08ok9ssMHuv+Ou4Vgp1W7EX 96yBQy1zBj91dfde05I6+VNqzrvwGyH1UC+0N+SCrY8m5ohajP1rLUkrXtqJHGwD4jxQ czNopdhLcV/GesyfJ++T5kP8WCdpNaVWukBgrjsdiwlAmg3pc7/AnmEbbQbxXBPu8tDT nekYplViUMy2pOr6SgVyPntfn3vq5TlpiTpl68liyuhqyvRvyoDepwtnBf5edtXt5AiI 1oMUW9FuY6przXqVJH/CIqKDALVCJP9s+EA4BkalYMuHn8CF0DUmKrxNt7qIGc8yU1HP O7rA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1714751312; x=1715356112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ClQC8VSlvKJBh2I6Ccj/0WRIQBZ2rOynUTgahFNzYpA=; b=ERzySsWvAekp3fAmIaCUxSDWZ1/c6DBjhlK+P8hVwNWkJJ9ydVyJdtfGux2l55/FcZ GSOMR+39cB8gUyAXes4v/tG93l2993cjxwY8vTJ5m7I4kNWIwNksIW0gfVQ+uEETbFWN PzUc1n5yDHGcct3xaETC7ZE6zwLmSABYfAPyt1QWymVBWiBCJLGjqjVkIVrSyjZSF8Ij hfc467urciPoxQhh2RdJTvEdT9TI3DSvS4ikzTdx97CPzywgcow5fL5qlPASMgPH7yi0 pQYDgtfEpHxc4j916n12H1XqyjXHiNMnQCP+tsbaVkv0Wbo1PtphZoiL6kXTZE2w2dkg 5XsQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxAs27ZVKiGg8ado+Ln/iVDItU60B4AfHXrb6qNvii+rWN9+5vM rGKL+o1l3rnhyFZJqQX0gmWFn+r4IiIplxNMb0FkkWiVs966WRBgQHFGSFWLsQxt5ERf0zX7iw7 1ymMJy9sAJQiXce0nNmKgMI8FqvKel9GW6fo8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFD8Ttl+zgntGJFjj4Qnf2HjfADyQpQ8y8lBxftXz0P0ZIo4+WjRpcWEkYgLEo9C53McJEpE5G1zJq8w0uJXPM= X-Received: by 2002:adf:ef49:0:b0:34b:fc9a:6ece with SMTP id c9-20020adfef49000000b0034bfc9a6ecemr2211413wrp.33.1714751312429; Fri, 03 May 2024 08:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240417163244.651791-1-emrass@google.com> In-Reply-To: From: Josh Steadmon Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 08:48:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] doc: describe the project's decision-making process To: Junio C Hamano Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, avarab@gmail.com, christian.couder@gmail.com, me@ttaylorr.com, Enrico Mrass , Emily Shaffer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, sorry for silence on this thread. I am working on a V2 but probably won't have it ready today. On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 7:45=E2=80=AFAM Junio C Hamano w= rote: > > Junio C Hamano writes: > > > Enrico Mrass writes: > > > >> I'd be curious to learn about norms or practices applied when no conse= nsus > >> could be reached. It seems worth elaborating on that as part of docume= nting the > >> decision-making process. > > > > I may be forgetting things, but I do not know if there is a concrete > > "here is a norm that we have been using to reach a consensus, not > > just written down but it has been there" in the first place, let > > alone "here is what we do to resolve an irreconcilable differences". > > > > "We discuss and try to reach a consensus in an amicable way, > > sticking to CoC, etc." has mostly been good enough for our happy > > family, perhaps? > > > >> ... However, nothing > >> in the current description strikes me as specific to these larger-scal= e > >> decisions. > > > > I agree with that. > > We didn't hear any more comments on this topic, but writing down how > the world works around here, with the goal to eventually have a set > of project governance rules, is valuable. Otherwise loud people may > act according to their own (unwritten) rules that annoy others and > harm the community. > > Thanks.