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From: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] describe: fix --no-exact-match
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 07:11:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e05309d-c2be-c949-ae83-c4dd3247e790@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230811182415.GC2816191@coredump.intra.peff.net>

Am 11.08.23 um 20:24 schrieb Jeff King:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 07:59:12PM +0200, René Scharfe wrote:
>
>>> we are defining an inline function with the explicit goal of passing it
>>> as a function pointer. I don't remember all of the standard's rules
>>> here. Are we guaranteed that it will create a linkable version if
>>> necessary?
>>
>> I don't see on which basis the compiler could refuse.  We can't expect
>> the function address to be the same across compilation units, but we
>> don't need that.  If there's a compiler that won't do it or a standards
>> verse that makes this dubious then I'd like to know very much.
>
> I seem to recall some quirks where an inline function that is not called
> directly is not required to be compiled at all, and the compiler can
> assume that there is a definition available in another translation unit.

C99 says in 6.7.4 Function specifiers: "It is unspecified whether a call
to the function uses the inline definition or the external definition.",
referring to functions with both types of definition.  So a compiler
could ignore the inline version for those.

> But I think that only applies when no storage-class specifier is
> provided. In this case, you said "static", so I think it's OK?

That's how I understand it as well -- there is no external version to
choose and the compiler is not free to ignore the inline one.

> It's possible I'm mis-remembering the issues, too. One problem is that
> pre-C99, you might end up with the opposite problem (a compiled function
> with visible linkage that conflicts with other translation units at link
> time). E.g. here:
>
>   https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51533082/clarification-over-internal-linkage-of-inline-functions-in-c/51533367#51533367
>
> But I think with "static" we should always be OK.

*nod*

> Don't get me wrong, I like type checking. It's just that doing weird
> things with the language and pre-processor also carries a cost,
> especially in an open source project where new folks may show up and say
> "what the hell is this macro doing?". That's a friction for new
> developers, even if they're comfortable with idiomatic C.

Sure, but that ship has sailed in this specific case.  Standard option
parsing would use getopt or getopt_long, neither of which has void
pointers.  We already carry the cost of our OPT_ macros.  Let's ease it.

> That said...
>
>> A good example in parseopt: The patch below adds type checking to the
>> int options and yields 79 warning about incompatible pointers, because
>> enum pointers were used in integer option definitions.  The storage size
>> of enums depends on the member values and the compiler; an enum could be
>> char-sized.  When we access such a thing with an int pointer we write up
>> to seven bytes of garbage ... somewhere.  We better fix that.
>
> ...I do find this evidence compelling.

It's 3 instead of 7 bytes of garbage, but the point still stands..

René

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-12  5:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-18 15:44 [PATCH] ls-tree: fix --no-full-name René Scharfe
2023-07-18 16:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-18 20:49   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-21 12:41     ` René Scharfe
2023-07-21 12:41   ` René Scharfe
2023-07-21 14:37     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-21 19:29       ` René Scharfe
2023-07-21 20:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-21 20:14           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-24 12:29           ` René Scharfe
2023-07-24 18:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-24 20:09               ` René Scharfe
2023-07-24 20:50                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-28  6:12                   ` René Scharfe
2023-07-28  9:45                     ` Phillip Wood
2023-07-29 20:40                       ` René Scharfe
2023-07-31 15:31                         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-04 16:40                           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-04 19:48                             ` Phillip Wood
2023-08-05 10:40                               ` René Scharfe
2023-07-24 12:29           ` [PATCH v2 0/5] show negatability of options in short help René Scharfe
2023-07-24 12:34             ` [PATCH v2 1/5] subtree: disallow --no-{help,quiet,debug,branch,message} René Scharfe
2023-07-24 12:36             ` [PATCH v2 2/5] t1502, docs: disallow --no-help René Scharfe
2023-07-24 12:38             ` [PATCH v2 3/5] t1502: move optionspec help output to a file René Scharfe
2023-07-24 12:39             ` [PATCH v2 4/5] t1502: test option negation René Scharfe
2023-07-24 12:40             ` [PATCH v2 5/5] parse-options: show negatability of options in short help René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:33           ` [PATCH v3 0/8] " René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:37             ` [PATCH v3 1/8] subtree: disallow --no-{help,quiet,debug,branch,message} René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:37             ` [PATCH v3 2/8] t1502, docs: disallow --no-help René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:38             ` [PATCH v3 3/8] t1502: move optionspec help output to a file René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:39             ` [PATCH v3 4/8] t1502: test option negation René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:40             ` [PATCH v3 5/8] parse-options: show negatability of options in short help René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:43             ` [PATCH v3 6/8] parse-options: factor out usage_indent() and usage_padding() René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:44             ` [PATCH v3 7/8] parse-options: no --[no-]no- René Scharfe
2023-08-05 14:52             ` [PATCH v3 8/8] parse-options: simplify usage_padding() René Scharfe
2023-08-05 23:04               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-21 12:41   ` [PATCH] show-branch: fix --no-sparse René Scharfe
2023-07-21 14:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-21 16:30       ` René Scharfe
2023-07-21 12:41   ` [PATCH] show-branch: disallow --no-{date,topo}-order René Scharfe
2023-07-21 12:41   ` [PATCH] reset: disallow --no-{mixed,soft,hard,merge,keep} René Scharfe
2023-07-21 12:41   ` [PATCH] pack-objects: fix --no-quiet René Scharfe
2023-07-21 12:41   ` [PATCH] pack-objects: fix --no-keep-true-parents René Scharfe
2023-07-21 17:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-21 12:42   ` [PATCH] branch: disallow --no-{all,remotes} René Scharfe
2023-07-21 12:42   ` [PATCH] am: unify definition of --keep-cr and --no-keep-cr René Scharfe
2023-07-21 13:41   ` [PATCH] describe: fix --no-exact-match René Scharfe
2023-07-21 14:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-21 17:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-08 21:27     ` Jeff King
2023-08-08 21:28       ` Jeff King
2023-08-09  1:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-09 14:09         ` Jeff King
2023-08-09 16:41           ` René Scharfe
2023-08-09 19:07             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-10  0:26               ` Jeff King
2023-08-10  1:00                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-10 19:45                   ` René Scharfe
2023-08-10  0:41             ` Jeff King
2023-08-10 19:10               ` René Scharfe
2023-08-11 15:11                 ` Jeff King
2023-08-11 17:59                   ` René Scharfe
2023-08-11 18:24                     ` Jeff King
2023-08-12  5:11                       ` René Scharfe [this message]
2023-08-11 15:13                 ` Jeff King
2023-08-11 17:59                   ` René Scharfe

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