From: Felipe Contreras <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: Adam Majer <email@example.com>,
Felipe Contreras <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
Jeff King <email@example.com>, Junio C Hamano <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: "brian m. carlson" <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Re: Is GIT_DEFAULT_HASH flawed?
Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 18:34:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <email@example.com> (raw)
Adam Majer wrote:
> On May 3, 2023 5:44:24 p.m. GMT+02:00, Felipe Contreras <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> >Git was designed to make it *impossible* to confuse two commits with similar
> That was never ever the problem here.
But it will be.
> >> This is different. But aside, type + size + data are not really much
> >> different from just having data in a hash function.
> >It's completely different.
> How so? Type and size are just about 2 and a dozen bits of data, respectfully.
Do you understand how checksums work?
Compare these two objects:
Are they a) "not much different", or b) "completely different"?
Answer: doesn't matter, they are *different*. Period.
> >There are different philosophical views of what "security" means, and it seems
> >pretty clear to me that your view does not align with the view of Linus
> I'm not sure why you are name dropping Linus everywhere
I don't know if you are aware, but Linus Torvalds is the author of git.
He also happens to be the author of the most successful software project
in history: Linux.
So generally his design choices are considered to be good.
> or assuming you know more than anyone here about hash functions.
I don't assume such a thing.
But I'm pretty certain not many people are aware of the integrity issues
VCSs presented circa 2004, that git hashes solved in 2005, because if
they did, they could have created an object model storage similar to
git's, and no one did (except Linus Torvalds).
> Your explanation is quite clear to me (and probably everyone else
> here). But I'll just leave it at that.
Is it? Then you would have no trouble steel manning my argument, which
you haven't done.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-08 0:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-05 10:28 git clone of empty repositories doesn't preserve hash Adam Majer
2023-04-05 19:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-05 19:47 ` Adam Majer
2023-04-05 20:01 ` Jeff King
2023-04-05 20:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-05 21:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-05 21:26 ` Jeff King
2023-04-05 22:48 ` brian m. carlson
2023-04-06 13:11 ` Adam Majer
2023-04-25 21:35 ` brian m. carlson
2023-04-25 22:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-25 23:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-26 0:20 ` brian m. carlson
2023-04-26 11:25 ` Jeff King
2023-04-26 15:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-26 15:13 ` [PATCH] doc: GIT_DEFAULT_HASH is and will be ignored during "clone" Junio C Hamano
2023-04-26 21:06 ` brian m. carlson
2023-04-27 4:46 ` git clone of empty repositories doesn't preserve hash Jeff King
2023-04-26 10:51 ` Jeff King
2023-04-26 15:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-26 20:40 ` brian m. carlson
2023-04-26 20:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix empty SHA-256 clones with v0 and v1 brian m. carlson
2023-04-26 20:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] http: advertise capabilities when cloning empty repos brian m. carlson
2023-04-26 21:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-26 21:28 ` brian m. carlson
2023-04-27 5:00 ` Jeff King
2023-04-27 5:30 ` Jeff King
2023-04-27 20:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-26 20:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] Honor GIT_DEFAULT_HASH for empty clones without remote algo brian m. carlson
2023-04-26 21:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-26 21:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-27 5:43 ` Jeff King
2023-05-02 23:46 ` Is GIT_DEFAULT_HASH flawed? Felipe Contreras
2023-05-03 9:03 ` Adam Majer
2023-05-03 15:44 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-03 17:21 ` Adam Majer
2023-05-08 0:34 ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2023-05-03 9:09 ` demerphq
2023-05-03 18:20 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-03 22:54 ` brian m. carlson
2023-05-08 2:00 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-05-08 21:38 ` brian m. carlson
2023-05-09 10:32 ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-05-09 16:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-26 21:12 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix empty SHA-256 clones with v0 and v1 Junio C Hamano
2023-04-27 4:56 ` git clone of empty repositories doesn't preserve hash Jeff King
2023-05-01 17:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] Fix empty SHA-256 clones with v0 and v1 brian m. carlson
2023-05-01 17:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] upload-pack: advertise capabilities when cloning empty repos brian m. carlson
2023-05-01 22:40 ` Jeff King
2023-05-01 22:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-01 17:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] Fix empty SHA-256 clones with v0 and v1 Junio C Hamano
2023-05-17 19:24 ` [PATCH v3 " brian m. carlson
2023-05-17 19:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] upload-pack: advertise capabilities when cloning empty repos brian m. carlson
2023-05-17 21:48 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] Fix empty SHA-256 clones with v0 and v1 Junio C Hamano
2023-05-17 22:28 ` brian m. carlson
2023-05-18 18:28 ` Jeff King
2023-05-19 15:32 ` brian m. carlson
2023-04-05 21:23 ` git clone of empty repositories doesn't preserve hash Jeff King
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