From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>,
Matthew John Cheetham via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>,
Lessley Dennington <lessleydennington@gmail.com>,
Matthew John Cheetham <mjcheetham@outlook.com>,
M Hickford <mirth.hickford@gmail.com>,
Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>,
Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/12] Enhance credential helper protocol to include auth headers
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 14:51:20 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <60c3f1d0-2858-8811-7eb0-d6f586bf2ab8@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <230202.86edr8pax5.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>
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Hi Ævar,
On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 02 2023, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> >>
> >> >> Thanks, both. Let's merge it down.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party, but I left some comments just now
> >> > (this topic had been on my review backlog for ages, but I never quite
> >> > got to it).
> >> >
> >> > Many of my comments were small bits that could be fixed on top (tiny
> >> > leaks, etc). But some of my comments were of the form "no, do it totally
> >> > differently". It may simply be too late for those ones, but let's see if
> >> > Matthew finds anything compelling in them.
> >>
> >> I do not mind reverting the merge to 'next' to have an improved
> >> version. Your "do we really want to add a custom server based on
> >> questionable codebase whose quality as a test-bed for real world
> >> usage is dubious?" is a valid concern.
> >
> > Except.
> >
> > Except that this code base would have made for a fine base to potentially
> > implement an HTTPS-based replacement for the aging and insecure
> > git-daemon.
> >
> > That code base (which is hardly as questionable codebase as you make it
> > sound because it has been in use for years in a slightly different form)
> > would have had the opportunity to mature in a relatively safe environment:
> > our test suite. And eventually, once robust enough, it could have been
> > extended to allow for easy and painless yet secure ad-hoc serving of Git
> > repositories, addressing the security concerns around git-daemon.
> >
> > And now that we're throwing out that code we don't have that opportunity,
> > making the goal to deprecate the git-daemon and replace it by something
> > that is as easy to set up but talks HTTPS instead much, much harder to
> > reach.
>
> There's many reasons for why you almost never see a git:// URL in the
> wild anymore.
I am unwilling to accept that statement without any source to back it up.
Thin air is no substitute for reliable evidence.
> But if "easy and painless" was synonymous with "built with git" or
> "ships with git" as you seem to be using it, surely it would be more
> common than doing the same with http or https, which requires an
> external server?
Oh whoa... "requires an external server"?
My entire point was to suggest a way forward for an _internal_ server that
speaks https:// instead of git://.
So I am not suggesting what you seem to have understood me to suggest.
Ciao,
Johannes
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2022-11-01 23:59 ` Matthew John Cheetham
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2023-01-26 10:31 ` Jeff King
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