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From: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>
To: Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, calvinwan@google.com, szeder.dev@gmail.com,
	phillip.wood123@gmail.com, chooglen@google.com, avarab@gmail.com,
	sandals@crustytoothpaste.net
Subject: Re: Splitting common-main (Was: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 1/4] common-main: split common_exit() into a new file)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:09:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a347112-aaa8-d8ef-5919-dc66730af593@jeffhostetler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZLHcaFvvZh88TrLb@google.com>



On 7/14/23 7:38 PM, Josh Steadmon wrote:
> Hi, I'd like to revisit this as it's also relevant to a non-unit-test
> issue (`make fuzz-all` is currently broken). I have some questions
> inline below:
> 
> On 2023.05.18 10:17, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> steadmon@google.com writes:
>>
>>> It is convenient to have common_exit() in its own object file so that
>>> standalone programs may link to it (and any other object files that
>>> depend on it) while still having their own independent main() function.
>>
>> I am not so sure if this is a good direction to go in, though.  The
>> common_exit() function does two things that are very specific to and
>> dependent on what Git runtime has supposed to have done, like
>> initializing trace2 subsystem and linking with usage.c to make
>> bug_called_must_BUG exist.
> 
> True. We won't call common_exit() unless we're trying to exit() from a
> file that also includes git-compat-util.h, but I guess that's not a
> guarantee that trace2 is initialized or that usage.o is linked.
> 
>> I understand that a third-party or standalone non-Git programs may
>> want to do _more_ than what our main() does when starting up, but it
>> should be doable if make our main() call out to a hook function,
>> whose definition in Git is a no-op, that can be replaced by their
>> own implementation to do whatever they want to happen in main(), no?
>>
>> The reason why I am not comfortable with this patch is because I
>> cannot say why this split is better than other possible split.  For
>> example, we could instead split only our 'main' out to a separate
>> file, say "main.c", and put main.o together with common-main.o to
>> libgit.a to be found by the linker, and that arrangement will also
>> help your "standalone programs" having their own main() function.
>> Now with these two possible ways to split (and there may be other
>> split that may be even more convenient; I simply do not know), which
>> one is better, and what's the argument for each approach?
> 
> Sorry, I don't think I'm understanding your proposal here properly,
> please let me know where I'm going wrong: isn't this functionally
> equivalent to my patch, just with different filenames? Now main() would
> live in main.c (vs. my common-main.c), while check_bug_if_BUG() and
> common_exit() would live in common-main.c (now a misnomer, vs. my
> common-exit.c). I'm not following how that changes anything so I'm
> pretty sure I've misunderstood.
> 
> The issue I was trying to solve (whether for a unit-test framework or
> for the fuzzing engine) is that we don't have direct control over their
> main(), and so we can't rename it to avoid conflicts with our main().
> 
> I guess there may be some linker magic we could do to avoid the conflict
> and have (our) main() call (their, renamed) main()? I don't know offhand
> if that's actually possible, just speculating. Even if possible, it
> feels more complicated to me, but again that may just be due to my lack
> of linker knowledge.


I missed the original discussion and am definitely late to the party,
but an FYI there is also a `wmain()` in `compat/mingw.c` that is used
for MSVC builds on Windows.  It sets up some OS process stuff before
calling the actual `main()`.

Jeff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-14 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-17 23:56 [PATCH RFC v2 0/4] Add an external testing library for unit tests steadmon
2023-05-17 23:56 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/4] common-main: split common_exit() into a new file steadmon
2023-05-18 17:17   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-14 23:38     ` Splitting common-main (Was: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 1/4] common-main: split common_exit() into a new file) Josh Steadmon
2023-07-15  0:34       ` Splitting common-main Junio C Hamano
2023-08-14 13:09       ` Jeff Hostetler [this message]
2023-05-17 23:56 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/4] unit tests: Add a project plan document steadmon
2023-05-18 13:13   ` Phillip Wood
2023-05-18 20:15   ` Glen Choo
2023-05-24 17:40     ` Josh Steadmon
2023-06-01  9:19     ` Phillip Wood
2023-05-17 23:56 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/4] Add C TAP harness steadmon
2023-05-18 13:15   ` Phillip Wood
2023-05-18 20:50     ` Josh Steadmon
2023-05-17 23:56 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/4] unit test: add basic example and build rules steadmon
2023-05-18 13:32   ` Phillip Wood
2023-06-09 23:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/1] Add a project document for adding unit tests Josh Steadmon
2023-06-09 23:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/1] unit tests: Add a project plan document Josh Steadmon
2023-06-13 22:30   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-30 22:18     ` Josh Steadmon
2023-06-29 19:42   ` Linus Arver
2023-06-29 20:48     ` Josh Steadmon
2023-06-30 19:31       ` Linus Arver
2023-07-06 18:24         ` Glen Choo
2023-07-06 19:02           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-06 22:48             ` Glen Choo
2023-06-30 21:33       ` Josh Steadmon
2023-06-29 21:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-30  0:11       ` Linus Arver
2023-06-30 14:07   ` Phillip Wood
2023-06-30 18:47     ` K Wan
2023-06-30 22:35     ` Josh Steadmon

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