From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F29C77B7D for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 01:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229801AbjEKB0G (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 May 2023 21:26:06 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:54436 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S236375AbjEKB0C (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 May 2023 21:26:02 -0400 Received: from cloud.peff.net (cloud.peff.net [104.130.231.41]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6498759F2 for ; Wed, 10 May 2023 18:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19483 invoked by uid 109); 11 May 2023 01:25:59 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO peff.net) (10.0.1.2) by cloud.peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with ESMTP; Thu, 11 May 2023 01:25:59 +0000 Authentication-Results: cloud.peff.net; auth=none Received: (qmail 3251 invoked by uid 111); 11 May 2023 01:25:59 -0000 Received: from coredump.intra.peff.net (HELO sigill.intra.peff.net) (10.0.0.2) by peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with (TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Wed, 10 May 2023 21:25:59 -0400 Authentication-Results: peff.net; auth=none Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 21:25:58 -0400 From: Jeff King To: Felipe Contreras Cc: Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] diff: fix interaction between the "-s" option and other options Message-ID: <20230511012558.GA1464167@coredump.intra.peff.net> References: <20230505165952.335256-1-gitster@pobox.com> <645995f53dd75_7c6829483@chronos.notmuch> <6459c31038e81_7c68294ee@chronos.notmuch> <645c25dcb590b_7b63e294ea@chronos.notmuch> <645c2bc57fdd0_7c6152945e@chronos.notmuch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <645c2bc57fdd0_7c6152945e@chronos.notmuch> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 05:41:57PM -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > > And it led to unproductive and irritating waste of time number of times, and > > > eventually you were asked to leave the development community for at least a > > > few times. > > > > That is blatantly false. As a member of Git's Project Leadership Committee, you > > should know precisely how many times the committee has excercised this power, > > and it hasn't been "a few times", it has been one time. > > And for the record: that one time I was asked by the committee to not interact > with certain members of the community for a few months. > > The amount of times I was asked to "leave the development community" is *zero*. You're right, in the sense that the first time you were asked to leave we did not have a CoC, and nor was the PLC expected to be part of such conversations at that time. Likewise, many times during which your behavior has been a problem on the list, people did not ask you to leave, but simply said "I am not going to read your messages anymore". For example, here's Junio asking you to leave in 2013: https://lore.kernel.org/git/7vsj0lvs8f.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org/ Here's him explaining a few months later why your patches aren't getting reviewed: https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqtxgjg35a.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com/ Here's me addressing complaints about your behavior half a year after that: https://lore.kernel.org/git/20140514202646.GE2715@sigill.intra.peff.net/ That last one has some gmane links; if anyone truly wants to follow them (and I don't recommend that as being worth your time), the lore equivalents are: https://lore.kernel.org/git/20140425191236.GA31637@sigill.intra.peff.net/ https://lore.kernel.org/git/480ACEB0-7629-44DF-805F-E9543E66241B@quendi.de/ https://lore.kernel.org/git/7vfvl0htys.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org/ https://lore.kernel.org/git/20140502223612.GA11374@sigill.intra.peff.net/ I'm sure you will find reason to argue with all of that. But I think the spirit of "it led to an unproductive and irritating waste of time a number of times" is accurate. And this thread is one more example. You can feel free to respond if you want to; I'm not planning to participate further in this thread (and in case you were not aware, I'm not on the PLC any more). I just didn't want Junio to think he was alone in his view of the situation. -Peff