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From: Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Containers
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Seth Forshee
	<seth.forshee-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Christian Brauner
	<christian-STijNZzMWpgWenYVfaLwtA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [REVIEW][PATCH 0/6] Wrapping up the vfs support for unprivileged mounts
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 14:34:55 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180530043455.GN23861__13337.5002457344$1527654802$gmane$org@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k1rlkh1g.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 09:34:35PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > Yeah, the are some fairly big process and policy things that
> > need to be decided here. Not just at the kernel level, but at
> > distro and app infrastructure level too.
> >
> > I was originally sceptical of supporting kernel filesystems via
> > lkl, but the desire for unprivileged mounts has not gone away
> > and so I'm less worried about accessing filesystems that way
> > than I am of letting the kernel parse untrusted images from
> > untrusted users...
> 
> There is also the more readily available libguestfs which doesn't
> support as many filesystems but does seem available in most linux
> distributions already.  It already has a fuse option available
> with guestmount.  I may have to dig in there and see how to make
> it available without using fusermount.

That only provides host access to filesystems mounted inside guest
VMs, right?  AFAIA, libguestfs is not providing a FUSE
implementation that mounts and parses raw XFS images. e.g it barely
understands anything XFS, and that which it does is via running and
screen-scraping the output of XFS's userspace management tools...

> > I'm not sure what the correct forum for this is - wasn't this
> > something the Plumbers conference was supposed to facilitate?
> 
> Yes.  If we all need to be in a room and talk about things.
> It is early enough in the planning for Plumers that we could
> definitely schedule a talk or a BOF for this.

Ok. I have no idea if I'll be at plumbers - it's an awful long way
from where I am....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-30  4:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <87o9h6554f.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-23 23:25   ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/6] vfs: Don't allow changing the link count of an inode with an invalid uid or gid Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-23 23:25   ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/6] vfs: Allow userns root to call mknod on owned filesystems Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-23 23:25   ` [REVIEW][PATCH 3/6] fs: Allow superblock owner to replace invalid owners of inodes Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-23 23:25   ` [REVIEW][PATCH 4/6] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-23 23:25   ` [REVIEW][PATCH 5/6] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set security.* xattrs Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-23 23:25   ` [REVIEW][PATCH 6/6] fs: Allow CAP_SYS_ADMIN in s_user_ns to freeze and thaw filesystems Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-24 21:46   ` [REVIEW][PATCH 0/6] Wrapping up the vfs support for unprivileged mounts Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-29 15:40   ` Dongsu Park
     [not found] ` <20180523232538.4880-3-ebiederm@xmission.com>
     [not found]   ` <20180523232538.4880-3-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-23 23:41     ` [REVIEW][PATCH v2 3/6] fs: Allow superblock owner to replace invalid owners of inodes Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <20180523232538.4880-1-ebiederm@xmission.com>
     [not found]   ` <20180523232538.4880-1-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-24 12:58     ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/6] vfs: Don't allow changing the link count of an inode with an invalid uid or gid Seth Forshee
     [not found] ` <20180523232538.4880-4-ebiederm@xmission.com>
     [not found]   ` <20180524155803.GB19932@mailbox.org>
     [not found]     ` <20180524155803.GB19932-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-24 16:45       ` [REVIEW][PATCH 4/6] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <20180523232538.4880-2-ebiederm@xmission.com>
     [not found]   ` <20180523232538.4880-2-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-24 13:55     ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/6] vfs: Allow userns root to call mknod on owned filesystems Seth Forshee
     [not found]   ` <20180524135517.GQ3401@ubuntu-xps13>
2018-05-24 16:55     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87y3g92dta.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]       ` <87y3g92dta.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-24 17:22         ` Seth Forshee
     [not found] ` <20180524214617.GG7712@thunk.org>
     [not found]   ` <20180524214617.GG7712-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-24 23:23     ` [REVIEW][PATCH 0/6] Wrapping up the vfs support for unprivileged mounts Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]   ` <87y3g8y6x9.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]     ` <87y3g8y6x9.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-25  3:57       ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]     ` <20180525035716.GE10363@dastard>
2018-05-25  4:06       ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-29 13:12       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <8736yar4g3.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]         ` <8736yar4g3.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-29 22:17           ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]         ` <20180529221710.GM23861@dastard>
2018-05-30  2:34           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87k1rlkh1g.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-30  4:34               ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2018-05-23 23:22 Eric W. Biederman

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