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From: Simon Horman <simon.horman@corigine.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH net-next 5/5] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: implementation of dynamic ATU entries
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:11:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/N/h5WMRzl0i2IT@corigine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230217174431.bkkvfmtno56mfh5a@skbuf>

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 07:44:31PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:14:55PM +0100, Hans Schultz wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 17:02, Simon Horman <simon.horman@corigine.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just to clarify my suggestion one last time, it would be along the lines
> > > of the following (completely untested!). I feel that it robustly covers
> > > all cases for fdb_flags. And as a bonus doesn't need to be modified
> > > if other (unsupported) flags are added in future.
> > >
> > > 	if (fdb_flags & ~(DSA_FDB_FLAG_DYNAMIC))
> > > 		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > >
> > > 	is_dynamic = !!(fdb_flags & DSA_FDB_FLAG_DYNAMIC)
> > > 	if (is_dynamic)
> > > 		state = MV88E6XXX_G1_ATU_DATA_STATE_UC_AGE_7_NEWEST;
> > >
> > >
> > > And perhaps for other drivers:
> > >
> > > 	if (fdb_flags & ~(DSA_FDB_FLAG_DYNAMIC))
> > > 		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > > 	if (fdb_flags)
> > > 		return 0;
> > >
> > > Perhaps a helper would be warranted for the above.
> > 
> > How would such a helper look? Inline function is not clean.
> > 
> > >
> > > But in writing this I think that, perhaps drivers could return -EOPNOTSUPP
> > > for the DSA_FDB_FLAG_DYNAMIC case and the caller can handle, rather tha
> > > propagate, -EOPNOTSUPP.
> > 
> > I looked at that, but changing the caller is also a bit ugly.
> 
> Answering on behalf of Simon, and hoping he will agree.

Sorry for not responding earlier - I was on vacation last week.

TBH my idea was not nearly as well developed as the one you describe below.
But yes, I agree this is an interesting approach.

> You are missing a big opportunity to make the kernel avoid doing useless work.
> The dsa_slave_fdb_event() function runs in atomic switchdev notifier context,
> and schedules a deferred workqueue item - dsa_schedule_work() - to get sleepable
> context to program hardware.
> 
> Only that scheduling a deferred work item is not exactly cheap, so we try to
> avoid doing that unless we know that we'll end up doing something with that
> FDB entry once the deferred work does get scheduled:
> 
> 	/* Check early that we're not doing work in vain.
> 	 * Host addresses on LAG ports still require regular FDB ops,
> 	 * since the CPU port isn't in a LAG.
> 	 */
> 	if (dp->lag && !host_addr) {
> 		if (!ds->ops->lag_fdb_add || !ds->ops->lag_fdb_del)
> 			return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> 	} else {
> 		if (!ds->ops->port_fdb_add || !ds->ops->port_fdb_del)
> 			return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> 	}
> 
> What you should be doing is you should be using the pahole tool to find
> a good place for a new unsigned long field in struct dsa_switch, and add
> a new field ds->supported_fdb_flags. You should extend the early checking
> from dsa_slave_fdb_event() and exit without doing anything if the
> (fdb->flags & ~ds->supported_fdb_flags) expression is non-zero.
> 
> This way you would kill 2 birds with 1 stone, since individual drivers
> would no longer need to check the flags; DSA would guarantee not calling
> them with unsupported flags.
> 
> It would be also very good to reach an agreement with switchdev
> maintainers regarding the naming of the is_static/is_dyn field.
> 
> It would also be excellent if you could rename "fdb_flags" to just
> "flags" within DSA.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-20 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-30 17:34 [Bridge] [PATCH net-next 0/5] ATU and FDB synchronization on locked ports Hans J. Schultz
2023-01-30 17:34 ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next 1/5] net: bridge: add dynamic flag to switchdev notifier Hans J. Schultz
2023-02-01 18:10   ` Ido Schimmel
2023-02-02  7:28     ` netdev
2023-02-02 16:11       ` Ido Schimmel
2023-02-02 16:38         ` netdev
2023-02-03 16:14           ` Ido Schimmel
2023-02-03 16:26             ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-02-03 16:27             ` netdev
2023-02-03 17:06               ` Ido Schimmel
2023-01-30 17:34 ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next 2/5] net: dsa: propagate flags down towards drivers Hans J. Schultz
2023-01-30 17:34 ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next 3/5] drivers: net: dsa: add fdb entry flags incoming to switchcore drivers Hans J. Schultz
2023-01-31 18:54   ` Simon Horman
2023-02-02 16:45     ` netdev
2023-02-03  8:17       ` Simon Horman
2023-02-03 18:41         ` netdev
2023-01-30 17:34 ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next 4/5] net: bridge: ensure FDB offloaded flag is handled as needed Hans J. Schultz
2023-02-01 18:24   ` Ido Schimmel
2023-02-02  7:32     ` netdev
2023-01-30 17:34 ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next 5/5] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: implementation of dynamic ATU entries Hans J. Schultz
2023-01-31 18:56   ` Simon Horman
2023-02-02 17:00     ` netdev
2023-02-03  8:20       ` Simon Horman
2023-02-03 20:44         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-02-04  8:12           ` Simon Horman
2023-02-04  8:48             ` netdev
2023-02-06 16:02               ` Simon Horman
2023-02-14 21:14                 ` Hans Schultz
2023-02-17 17:44                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-02-20 14:11                     ` Simon Horman [this message]
2023-01-31 19:25 ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next 0/5] ATU and FDB synchronization on locked ports Ido Schimmel
2023-02-02  7:37   ` netdev
2023-02-02 15:43     ` Ido Schimmel
2023-02-02 16:19       ` netdev
2023-02-02 16:36         ` Ido Schimmel
2023-02-03 21:14           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-02-02 17:18   ` netdev

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