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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot wiki and arch-specific details
@ 2008-04-13 23:26 Mike Frysinger
  2008-04-14 13:12 ` Detlev Zundel
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From: Mike Frysinger @ 2008-04-13 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: u-boot

we maintain a Blackfin-specific u-boot wiki that goes into quite a bit of 
detail, some of which is duplicated with the main u-boot wiki.  how do people 
feel about extending the u-boot wiki to allow for arch-specific details ?
-mike
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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot wiki and arch-specific details
  2008-04-13 23:26 [U-Boot-Users] u-boot wiki and arch-specific details Mike Frysinger
@ 2008-04-14 13:12 ` Detlev Zundel
  2008-04-14 17:34   ` Mike Frysinger
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From: Detlev Zundel @ 2008-04-14 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: u-boot

Hi Mike,

> we maintain a Blackfin-specific u-boot wiki that goes into quite a bit of 
> detail, some of which is duplicated with the main u-boot wiki.  how do people 
> feel about extending the u-boot wiki to allow for arch-specific details ?

What exactly do you have in mind?  I surely don't see any principal
problem here.

It would certainly be valuable to get all U-Boot related info collected
in a central place and have pointers wherever that make sense...

Cheers
  Detlev

-- 
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not designed to protect us from the terrorists,  but instead to protect our
public officials from criticism when another attack occurs.
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--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,      MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich,  Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-40 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: dzu at denx.de

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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot wiki and arch-specific details
  2008-04-14 13:12 ` Detlev Zundel
@ 2008-04-14 17:34   ` Mike Frysinger
  2008-04-17 14:50     ` Detlev Zundel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2008-04-14 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: u-boot

On Monday 14 April 2008, Detlev Zundel wrote:
> > we maintain a Blackfin-specific u-boot wiki that goes into quite a bit of
> > detail, some of which is duplicated with the main u-boot wiki.  how do
> > people feel about extending the u-boot wiki to allow for arch-specific
> > details ?
>
> What exactly do you have in mind?  I surely don't see any principal
> problem here.
>
> It would certainly be valuable to get all U-Boot related info collected
> in a central place and have pointers wherever that make sense...

from my reading of the wiki, it's more of a technical/command reference than a 
guide.  the wiki we maintain is geared to be more of a guide.  i think the 
two can be merged, i just dont want to convert things only to find out people 
dont want to take it that direction.
-mike
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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot wiki and arch-specific details
  2008-04-14 17:34   ` Mike Frysinger
@ 2008-04-17 14:50     ` Detlev Zundel
  2008-04-17 18:01       ` Mike Frysinger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Detlev Zundel @ 2008-04-17 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: u-boot

Hi Mike,

> On Monday 14 April 2008, Detlev Zundel wrote:
>> > we maintain a Blackfin-specific u-boot wiki that goes into quite a bit of
>> > detail, some of which is duplicated with the main u-boot wiki.  how do
>> > people feel about extending the u-boot wiki to allow for arch-specific
>> > details ?
>>
>> What exactly do you have in mind?  I surely don't see any principal
>> problem here.
>>
>> It would certainly be valuable to get all U-Boot related info collected
>> in a central place and have pointers wherever that make sense...
>
> from my reading of the wiki, it's more of a technical/command reference than a 
> guide.  the wiki we maintain is geared to be more of a guide.  i think the 
> two can be merged, i just dont want to convert things only to find out people 
> dont want to take it that direction.

Just to be clear, we are discussing the DULG wiki, right?  

I agree that in the current state the documentation is more a reference
but IIRC that wasn't really a conscious design decision.  It simply
turned out this way in the end.

So I do not see any general problem in adding "guide style" sections in
there.  Maybe then most of the current documentation can then be shifted
to a "commands reference" section.

One problem I see though is how to correctly adapt such sections to the
board specific nature of the DULG.  Hopefully we can get away with
mostly generic text passages and only a few ifdefs.  It would be very
helpful to know more concrete plans (outline!) to think further about
these implications.

Cheers
  Detlev

-- 
Applied mathematicians do it by computer simulation.
--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,      MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich,  Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-40 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: dzu at denx.de

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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot wiki and arch-specific details
  2008-04-17 14:50     ` Detlev Zundel
@ 2008-04-17 18:01       ` Mike Frysinger
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2008-04-17 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: u-boot

On Thursday 17 April 2008, Detlev Zundel wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> > On Monday 14 April 2008, Detlev Zundel wrote:
> >> > we maintain a Blackfin-specific u-boot wiki that goes into quite a bit
> >> > of detail, some of which is duplicated with the main u-boot wiki.  how
> >> > do people feel about extending the u-boot wiki to allow for
> >> > arch-specific details ?
> >>
> >> What exactly do you have in mind?  I surely don't see any principal
> >> problem here.
> >>
> >> It would certainly be valuable to get all U-Boot related info collected
> >> in a central place and have pointers wherever that make sense...
> >
> > from my reading of the wiki, it's more of a technical/command reference
> > than a guide.  the wiki we maintain is geared to be more of a guide.  i
> > think the two can be merged, i just dont want to convert things only to
> > find out people dont want to take it that direction.
>
> Just to be clear, we are discussing the DULG wiki, right?

is there any other worth talking about :)

> I agree that in the current state the documentation is more a reference
> but IIRC that wasn't really a conscious design decision.  It simply
> turned out this way in the end.
>
> So I do not see any general problem in adding "guide style" sections in
> there.  Maybe then most of the current documentation can then be shifted
> to a "commands reference" section.

OK

> One problem I see though is how to correctly adapt such sections to the
> board specific nature of the DULG.  Hopefully we can get away with
> mostly generic text passages and only a few ifdefs.  It would be very
> helpful to know more concrete plans (outline!) to think further about
> these implications.

so talking to some people on our side and i realized i forgot about a lame 
(but important) aspect.  we need to retain full copyright over our docs.  we 
license it all under a non commercial creative commons license, but sometimes 
we get customer requests to include portions of our docs into their work but 
under their own rules.  if i were to merge the our wiki with the DULG one, we 
couldnt in good faith continue that practice.  so the wiki's will have to 
remain sep, but i can push content into the public one to improve it, just 
not vice versa.
-mike
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