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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: "Zeng, Oak" <oak.zeng@intel.com>
Cc: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Brost, Matthew" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	"Welty, Brian" <brian.welty@intel.com>,
	"Ghimiray, Himal Prasad" <himal.prasad.ghimiray@intel.com>,
	"Bommu, Krishnaiah" <krishnaiah.bommu@intel.com>,
	"Vishwanathapura,
	Niranjana" <niranjana.vishwanathapura@intel.com>,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/23] drm/xe/svm: Introduce a helper to build sg table from hmm range
Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 11:03:03 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPM=9tw0w4fY3+fHV4kx8oGUvSM3vzH4KXKFDxg_aqBq4duSsA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA1PR11MB69911B3E675B1072A17A3E49921F2@SA1PR11MB6991.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

> Let me know if this understanding is correct.
>
> Or what would you like to do in such situation?
>
> >
> > Not sure how it is really a good idea.
> >
> > Adaptive locality of memory is still an unsolved problem in Linux,
> > sadly.
> >
> > > > However, the migration stuff should really not be in the driver
> > > > either. That should be core DRM logic to manage that. It is so
> > > > convoluted and full of policy that all the drivers should be working
> > > > in the same way.
> > >
> > > Completely agreed. Moving migration infrastructures to DRM is part
> > > of our plan. We want to first prove of concept with xekmd driver,
> > > then move helpers, infrastructures to DRM. Driver should be as easy
> > > as implementation a few callback functions for device specific page
> > > table programming and device migration, and calling some DRM common
> > > functions during gpu page fault.
> >
> > You'd be better to start out this way so people can look at and
> > understand the core code on its own merits.
>
> The two steps way were agreed with DRM maintainers, see here:  https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/SA1PR11MB6991045CC69EC8E1C576A715925F2@SA1PR11MB6991.namprd11.prod.outlook.com/, bullet 4)

After this discussion and the other cross-device HMM stuff I think we
should probably push more for common up-front, I think doing this in a
driver without considering the bigger picture might not end up
extractable, and then I fear the developers will just move onto other
things due to management pressure to land features over correctness.

I think we have enough people on the list that can review this stuff,
and even if the common code ends up being a little xe specific,
iterating it will be easier outside the driver, as we can clearly
demark what is inside and outside.

Dave.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-04  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-17 22:12 [PATCH 00/23] XeKmd basic SVM support Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 01/23] drm/xe/svm: Add SVM document Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 02/23] drm/xe/svm: Add svm key data structures Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 03/23] drm/xe/svm: create xe svm during vm creation Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 04/23] drm/xe/svm: Trace svm creation Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 05/23] drm/xe/svm: add helper to retrieve svm range from address Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 06/23] drm/xe/svm: Introduce a helper to build sg table from hmm range Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-04-05  0:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05  3:33     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-04-05 12:37       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 16:42         ` Zeng, Oak
2024-04-05 18:02           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 16:45             ` Zeng, Oak
2024-04-09 17:24               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-23 21:17                 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-04-24  2:31                   ` Matthew Brost
2024-04-24 13:57                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 16:35                       ` Matthew Brost
2024-04-24 16:44                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 16:56                           ` Matthew Brost
2024-04-24 17:48                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 13:48                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-24 23:59                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-04-25  1:05                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-26  9:55                         ` Thomas Hellström
2024-04-26 12:00                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-26 14:49                             ` Thomas Hellström
2024-04-26 16:35                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-29  8:25                                 ` Thomas Hellström
2024-04-30 17:30                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-30 18:57                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-01  0:09                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-02  8:04                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-02  9:11                                           ` Thomas Hellström
2024-05-02 12:46                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-02 15:01                                               ` Thomas Hellström
2024-05-02 19:25                                                 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-05-03 13:37                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-03 14:43                                                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-05-03 16:28                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-03 20:29                                                         ` Zeng, Oak
2024-05-04  1:03                                                           ` Dave Airlie [this message]
2024-05-06 13:04                                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-06 23:50                                                               ` Matthew Brost
2024-05-07 11:56                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-06 13:33                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 17:33               ` Matthew Brost
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 07/23] drm/xe/svm: Add helper for binding hmm range to gpu Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 08/23] drm/xe/svm: Add helper to invalidate svm range from GPU Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 09/23] drm/xe/svm: Remap and provide memmap backing for GPU vram Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 10/23] drm/xe/svm: Introduce svm migration function Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 11/23] drm/xe/svm: implement functions to allocate and free device memory Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 12/23] drm/xe/svm: Trace buddy block allocation and free Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 13/23] drm/xe/svm: Handle CPU page fault Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 14/23] drm/xe/svm: trace svm range migration Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 15/23] drm/xe/svm: Implement functions to register and unregister mmu notifier Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 16/23] drm/xe/svm: Implement the mmu notifier range invalidate callback Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 17/23] drm/xe/svm: clean up svm range during process exit Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 18/23] drm/xe/svm: Move a few structures to xe_gt.h Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 19/23] drm/xe/svm: migrate svm range to vram Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 20/23] drm/xe/svm: Populate svm range Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 21/23] drm/xe/svm: GPU page fault support Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-23  2:06   ` Welty, Brian
2024-01-23  2:06     ` Welty, Brian
2024-01-23  3:09     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-23  3:09       ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-23  3:21       ` Making drm_gpuvm work across gpu devices Zeng, Oak
2024-01-23  3:21         ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-23 11:13         ` Christian König
2024-01-23 11:13           ` Christian König
2024-01-23 19:37           ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-23 19:37             ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-23 20:17             ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-23 20:17               ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-25  1:39               ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25  1:39                 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-23 23:56             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-01-23 23:56               ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-01-24  3:57               ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-24  3:57                 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-24  4:14                 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-24  4:14                   ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-24  6:48                   ` Christian König
2024-01-24  6:48                     ` Christian König
2024-01-25 22:13                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-01-25 22:13                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-01-24  8:33             ` Christian König
2024-01-24  8:33               ` Christian König
2024-01-25  1:17               ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25  1:17                 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25  1:25                 ` David Airlie
2024-01-25  1:25                   ` David Airlie
2024-01-25  5:25                   ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25  5:25                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-26 10:09                     ` Christian König
2024-01-26 10:09                       ` Christian König
2024-01-26 20:13                       ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-26 20:13                         ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-29 10:10                         ` Christian König
2024-01-29 10:10                           ` Christian König
2024-01-29 20:09                           ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-29 20:09                             ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25 11:00                 ` 回复:Making " 周春明(日月)
2024-01-25 11:00                   ` 周春明(日月)
2024-01-25 17:00                   ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25 17:00                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25 17:15                 ` Making " Felix Kuehling
2024-01-25 17:15                   ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-25 18:37                   ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25 18:37                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-26 13:23                     ` Christian König
2024-01-26 13:23                       ` Christian König
2024-01-25 16:42               ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25 16:42                 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25 18:32               ` Daniel Vetter
2024-01-25 18:32                 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-01-25 21:02                 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-25 21:02                   ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-26  8:21                 ` Thomas Hellström
2024-01-26  8:21                   ` Thomas Hellström
2024-01-26 12:52                   ` Christian König
2024-01-26 12:52                     ` Christian König
2024-01-27  2:21                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-27  2:21                       ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-29 10:19                       ` Christian König
2024-01-29 10:19                         ` Christian König
2024-01-30  0:21                         ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-30  0:21                           ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-30  8:39                           ` Christian König
2024-01-30  8:39                             ` Christian König
2024-01-30 22:29                             ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-30 22:29                               ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-30 23:12                               ` David Airlie
2024-01-30 23:12                                 ` David Airlie
2024-01-31  9:15                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2024-01-31  9:15                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-01-31 20:17                                   ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-31 20:17                                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-31 20:59                                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-01-31 20:59                                       ` Zeng, Oak
2024-02-01  8:52                                     ` Christian König
2024-02-01  8:52                                       ` Christian König
2024-02-29 18:22                                       ` Zeng, Oak
2024-03-08  4:43                                         ` Zeng, Oak
2024-03-08 10:07                                           ` Christian König
2024-01-30  8:43                           ` Thomas Hellström
2024-01-30  8:43                             ` Thomas Hellström
2024-01-29 15:03                 ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-29 15:03                   ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-29 15:33                   ` Christian König
2024-01-29 15:33                     ` Christian König
2024-01-29 16:24                     ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-29 16:24                       ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-29 16:28                       ` Christian König
2024-01-29 16:28                         ` Christian König
2024-01-29 17:52                         ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-29 17:52                           ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-29 19:03                           ` Christian König
2024-01-29 19:03                             ` Christian König
2024-01-29 20:24                             ` Felix Kuehling
2024-01-29 20:24                               ` Felix Kuehling
2024-02-23 20:12               ` Zeng, Oak
2024-02-27  6:54                 ` Christian König
2024-02-27 15:58                   ` Zeng, Oak
2024-02-28 19:51                     ` Zeng, Oak
2024-02-29  9:41                       ` Christian König
2024-02-29 16:05                         ` Zeng, Oak
2024-02-29 17:12                         ` Thomas Hellström
2024-03-01  7:01                           ` Christian König
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 22/23] drm/xe/svm: Add DRM_XE_SVM kernel config entry Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12 ` [PATCH 23/23] drm/xe/svm: Add svm memory hints interface Oak Zeng
2024-01-17 22:12   ` Oak Zeng
2024-01-18  2:45 ` ✓ CI.Patch_applied: success for XeKmd basic SVM support Patchwork
2024-01-18  2:46 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning " Patchwork
2024-01-18  2:46 ` ✗ CI.KUnit: failure " Patchwork

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