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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	Andrew Strauss <astrauss11@gmail.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] semihosting/arm-compat: remove heuristic softmmu SYS_HEAPINFO
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:25:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA9NYv1GdA+2P_7hbqgBwRTv6JFgfp1mS_PzURY-aafkeA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87im2liz4x.fsf@linaro.org>

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 at 15:16, Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org> wrote:
>
>
> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> > I'm told that the Arm C compiler C library always assumes that
> > the "stack base" value is what it should set SP to, so reporting 0
> > for that will break binaries that were built with it.
> >
> > As the TODO comment notes, the "heap base" is a bit of a guess,
> > but putting stackbase at top-of-RAM seems generally sensible.
> >
> > What bug are we trying to fix here?
>
> Having newlib use a value that's wrong and therefor plant it's heap in
> the middle of the loaded code.
>
> > I think one possible implementation that might not be too
> > hard to make work would be:
> >
> >  (1) find the guest physical address of the main machine
> >      RAM (machine->ram). You can do this with flatview_for_each_range()
> >      similar to what rom_ptr_for_as() does. (It might be mapped
> >      more than once, we could just pick the first one.)
>
> Currently this is done by common_semi_find_region_base which pokes
> around get_system_memory()->subregions to find a region containing an
> initialised register pointer.

Yes. I am suggesting we throw that code away, since (a) assuming
any register happens to point in to the main RAM is dubious and
(b) iterating through the subregions of get_system_memory() is
not guaranteed to work either (consider the case where the system
memory is inside a container MR rather than a direct child of the
system memory MR).

> >  (2) find the largest contiguous extent of that RAM which
> >      is not covered by a ROM blob, by iterating through the
> >      ROM blob data. (This sounds like one of those slightly
> >      irritating but entirely tractable algorithms questions :-))
>
> Does that assume that any rom blob (so anything from -kernel, -pflash or
> -generic-loader?) will have also included space for guest data and bss?

Yes; the elf loader code creates rom blobs whose rom->romsize
covers both initialized data from the ELF file and space to
be zeroed.

thanks
-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-10 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-10 10:26 [PATCH v2] semihosting/arm-compat: remove heuristic softmmu SYS_HEAPINFO Alex Bennée
2021-06-10 10:57 ` Peter Maydell
2021-06-10 13:55   ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-10 12:32 ` Peter Maydell
2021-06-10 14:12   ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-10 14:25     ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2021-06-11 17:01       ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-13 14:58         ` Peter Maydell

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