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[86.7.189.148]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b10sm7116349wrr.27.2021.05.14.04.08.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 14 May 2021 04:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/40] Use ASCII subset instead of UTF-8 alternate symbols To: David Woodhouse , Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Linux Doc Mailing List , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , Mali DP Maintainers , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, coresight@lists.linaro.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, mjpeg-users@lists.sourceforge.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org References: <20210514102118.1b71bec3@coco.lan> <61c286b7afd6c4acf71418feee4eecca2e6c80c8.camel@infradead.org> From: Edward Cree Message-ID: <8b8bc929-2f07-049d-f24c-cb1f1d85bbaa@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 12:08:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <61c286b7afd6c4acf71418feee4eecca2e6c80c8.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > On Fri, 2021-05-14 at 10:21 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: >> I do use a lot of UTF-8 here, as I type texts in Portuguese, but I rely >> on the US-intl keyboard settings, that allow me to type as "'a" for á. >> However, there's no shortcut for non-Latin UTF-codes, as far as I know. >> >> So, if would need to type a curly comma on the text editors I normally >> use for development (vim, nano, kate), I would need to cut-and-paste >> it from somewhere For anyone who doesn't know about it: X has this wonderful thing called the Compose key[1]. For instance, type ⎄--- to get —, or ⎄<" for “. Much more mnemonic than Unicode codepoints; and you can extend it with user-defined sequences in your ~/.XCompose file. (I assume Wayland supports all this too, but don't know the details.) On 14/05/2021 10:06, David Woodhouse wrote: > Again, if you want to make specific fixes like removing non-breaking > spaces and byte order marks, with specific reasons, then those make > sense. But it's got very little to do with UTF-8 and how easy it is to > type them. And the excuse you've put in the commit comment for your > patches is utterly bogus. +1 -ed [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE33C433B4 for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 11:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.sourceforge.net (lists.sourceforge.net [216.105.38.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C05C6127A; 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[86.7.189.148]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b10sm7116349wrr.27.2021.05.14.04.08.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 14 May 2021 04:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/40] Use ASCII subset instead of UTF-8 alternate symbols To: David Woodhouse , Mauro Carvalho Chehab References: <20210514102118.1b71bec3@coco.lan> <61c286b7afd6c4acf71418feee4eecca2e6c80c8.camel@infradead.org> From: Edward Cree Message-ID: <8b8bc929-2f07-049d-f24c-cb1f1d85bbaa@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 12:08:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <61c286b7afd6c4acf71418feee4eecca2e6c80c8.camel@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 May 2021 17:39:48 +0200 Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, Linux Doc Mailing List , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Mali DP Maintainers , linux-input@vger.kernel.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, coresight@lists.linaro.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, mjpeg-users@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" > On Fri, 2021-05-14 at 10:21 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: >> I do use a lot of UTF-8 here, as I type texts in Portuguese, but I rely >> on the US-intl keyboard settings, that allow me to type as "'a" for á. >> However, there's no shortcut for non-Latin UTF-codes, as far as I know. >> >> So, if would need to type a curly comma on the text editors I normally >> use for development (vim, nano, kate), I would need to cut-and-paste >> it from somewhere For anyone who doesn't know about it: X has this wonderful thing called the Compose key[1]. 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And the excuse you've put in the commit comment for your > patches is utterly bogus. +1 -ed [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0A8C433B4 for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 12:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFF356143D for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 12:13:43 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org CFF356143D Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=intel-gfx-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7E96EE5C; Fri, 14 May 2021 12:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm1-x332.google.com (mail-wm1-x332.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::332]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26FEA6EE52; Fri, 14 May 2021 11:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm1-x332.google.com with SMTP id z130so3891013wmg.2; Fri, 14 May 2021 04:18:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DnsDrIqkWnYf7da8HpIWFBQQt2XImu+6ZyHWBvjrfcE=; b=sDX/4vOZ59ic93Kj1k7EQHH5H75TwRxFQdfU97NsB2/Y+xVttZgCu6VcmdiZBbTXV4 Yd9dS94Y1asR2VIYZN7NEerfwgmtEUFK3NZSUIzeY6J/4AmyVofgnwxiuO5puvulkCHX zAH+iCNJUU2yLFhQkplxklOlcyZUbrmQbTIThNq4BukYbZy9X610Bla24hpoPnMCKKtF HaX7GWwtAjZyjiNuvWcCoIBPkXTf9xY5aCFfjMGcrbRCdRoMLY/c+VX1+t1XGHSYNqtQ /vEAS8jymBn+QTD3oR/5dtU3nH62pPJpzKh6iPn38AjBb8Fr8EpkCArPsjTRrMSNZ8n3 9CtA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DnsDrIqkWnYf7da8HpIWFBQQt2XImu+6ZyHWBvjrfcE=; b=QOauK4teLfV781jzrWtNHnDzHvkgUx2brfQu0Y8vzhWdvoxRoAeKNohsdFW/k7Ct6V T0jowGpfpwX79j9bMv0Tq7Lwo3KRBJ05f4uyBhWtm/cV2/uxQ2a5ame01fMg1Yh/0KZT TifxELB2fsDk1LziLdnN3Sf00AcYVIS2mUUg05CrYMUcnZvTwCxxDNCxfh5eras7gloV RTxzjQiFjgOnZA3eajap+sE5H/7nTkSMgg0eLKVHaA2TmcClBE3GvzMOUIRqGlDHpwLW mjVV7emgUEp460hRLnMqq/bf7hZ21lWUw9uzIgfjITWu+BSp8rR8JLGsxGogoyOvzDZV iCdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5324CnQ6c/FPqY0Y5/dS96UOF/KBBkSwTM04bN3+azKuVLvQTl4G 3ghDfpazfwZrBiAXYABSIMA1GSN9Cs7C4g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwViz0BDPUuVH349RqXP0p4zCVFhrVjXNorTYnm55dAjMiaqH0FajvtM+sJwCYcinjBh5k1qQ== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c005:: with SMTP id c5mr21007074wmb.113.1620990517974; Fri, 14 May 2021 04:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.122] (cpc159425-cmbg20-2-0-cust403.5-4.cable.virginm.net. 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For instance, type ?--- to get ?, or ?<" for ?. Much more mnemonic than Unicode codepoints; and you can extend it with user-defined sequences in your ~/.XCompose file. (I assume Wayland supports all this too, but don't know the details.) On 14/05/2021 10:06, David Woodhouse wrote: > Again, if you want to make specific fixes like removing non-breaking > spaces and byte order marks, with specific reasons, then those make > sense. But it's got very little to do with UTF-8 and how easy it is to > type them. And the excuse you've put in the commit comment for your > patches is utterly bogus. +1 -ed [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key