* R3000 SGI machines
@ 1997-09-26 6:39 Ralf Baechle
1997-09-26 15:10 ` Warner Losh
1997-09-26 15:50 ` William J. Earl
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ralf Baechle @ 1997-09-26 6:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: linux
Hi all,
I receive an increasing number of emails asking for Linux as replacement
operating system for older R3000 SGI machines as well as Mips Inc.
machines. Is there still documentation available for these systems
that would make a port possible?
Ralf
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* Re: R3000 SGI machines
@ 1997-09-26 11:24 LetherGlov
1997-09-26 15:56 ` William J. Earl
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: LetherGlov @ 1997-09-26 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: linux
You know I was just thinking about that this morning. I was more leaning
towards the personal iris, and the crimson with the video adapter that is not
supported in 6.2(the name isn't coming to me right now, GTX?). I was
wondering how we got the specs from the ethernet, bus, and serial controllers
from SGI. And the chip specs from mips. If I understand SGI history
correctly, there was a change in the CPU after revision 3, and we are going
to need to see if this is going to cause problems. another thing we need to
do(I'll do it) is call ID Software and get the code for DOOM so It can be
compiled for Linux.
Thanks,
Robbie Stone
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* Re: R3000 SGI machines
1997-09-26 6:39 Ralf Baechle
@ 1997-09-26 15:10 ` Warner Losh
1997-09-26 15:58 ` William J. Earl
1997-09-26 15:50 ` William J. Earl
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Warner Losh @ 1997-09-26 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Ralf Baechle; +Cc: linux
In message <199709260639.XAA09959@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Ralf Baechle writes:
: I receive an increasing number of emails asking for Linux as replacement
: operating system for older R3000 SGI machines as well as Mips Inc.
: machines. Is there still documentation available for these systems
: that would make a port possible?
I'll have to search my email archive (which would take some doing),
but someone at SGI offered to get me the sources to RISCos, or at
least the device drivers. They were donated to berkeley, who didn't
integrate them into their 4.4 or 4.4lite release, was the story I was
told. Might be worth looking into. Wouldn't help with some of the
older SGI machines, but would help with the MIPS co boxes.
Warner
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* Re: R3000 SGI machines
1997-09-26 6:39 Ralf Baechle
1997-09-26 15:10 ` Warner Losh
@ 1997-09-26 15:50 ` William J. Earl
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: William J. Earl @ 1997-09-26 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Ralf Baechle; +Cc: linux
Ralf Baechle writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I receive an increasing number of emails asking for Linux as replacement
> operating system for older R3000 SGI machines as well as Mips Inc.
> machines. Is there still documentation available for these systems
> that would make a port possible?
There is some, which I could track down, on the same basis as the
Indy documentation. I don't know how complete the files are, however.
There is a family resemblance in much of Indigo system, especially the I/O.
The Personal IRIS and Power Series machines, which were VME-based, are
fairly different (except for graphics), but are relatively similar to the
MIPS VME systems, such as the M1000 and M2000. The Power Series are
MP systems, and have some special purpose interprocessor synchronization
hardware. The documentation for the VME systems will be harder to
locate.
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* Re: R3000 SGI machines
1997-09-26 11:24 R3000 SGI machines LetherGlov
@ 1997-09-26 15:56 ` William J. Earl
1997-09-26 18:58 ` Steve Rikli
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: William J. Earl @ 1997-09-26 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: LetherGlov; +Cc: linux
LetherGlov@aol.com writes:
> You know I was just thinking about that this morning. I was more leaning
> towards the personal iris, and the crimson with the video adapter that is not
> supported in 6.2(the name isn't coming to me right now, GTX?). I was
> wondering how we got the specs from the ethernet, bus, and serial controllers
> from SGI. And the chip specs from mips. If I understand SGI history
> correctly, there was a change in the CPU after revision 3, and we are going
> to need to see if this is going to cause problems. another thing we need to
> do(I'll do it) is call ID Software and get the code for DOOM so It can be
> compiled for Linux.
The MIPS processor specifications are public, and available as printed
books. Also, many of them are online at http://www.sgi.com/MIPS/.
With the approval of the appropriate division general manager, I
supplied the people doing the Indy port of linux with copies of the
Indy hardware documentation.
Since the Personal IRIX and Crimson use mostly VME controllers. those
drivers should carry over from other VME ports. I don't know if I can
arrange to provide documentation for the graphics controllers.
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* Re: R3000 SGI machines
1997-09-26 15:10 ` Warner Losh
@ 1997-09-26 15:58 ` William J. Earl
1997-09-27 0:36 ` Ralf Baechle
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: William J. Earl @ 1997-09-26 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Warner Losh; +Cc: Ralf Baechle, linux
Warner Losh writes:
> In message <199709260639.XAA09959@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Ralf Baechle writes:
> : I receive an increasing number of emails asking for Linux as replacement
> : operating system for older R3000 SGI machines as well as Mips Inc.
> : machines. Is there still documentation available for these systems
> : that would make a port possible?
>
> I'll have to search my email archive (which would take some doing),
> but someone at SGI offered to get me the sources to RISCos, or at
> least the device drivers. They were donated to berkeley, who didn't
> integrate them into their 4.4 or 4.4lite release, was the story I was
> told. Might be worth looking into. Wouldn't help with some of the
> older SGI machines, but would help with the MIPS co boxes.
The RISCos driver source was supplied with every system, and we
did donate the source to Berkeley. Most of the VME controllers were
common to MIPS and SGI VME systems, so most of the drivers, other than
graphics, would be covered.
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* Re: R3000 SGI machines
1997-09-26 15:56 ` William J. Earl
@ 1997-09-26 18:58 ` Steve Rikli
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Steve Rikli @ 1997-09-26 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: linux
William J. Earl wrote:
> LetherGlov@aol.com writes:
>>
>> You know I was just thinking about that this morning. I was more leaning
>> towards the personal iris, and the crimson with the video adapter that is not
>> supported in 6.2(the name isn't coming to me right now, GTX?). I was
>> wondering how we got the specs from the ethernet, bus, and serial controllers
>> from SGI. And the chip specs from mips. If I understand SGI history
>> correctly, there was a change in the CPU after revision 3, and we are going
>> to need to see if this is going to cause problems. another thing we need to
>> do(I'll do it) is call ID Software and get the code for DOOM so It can be
>> compiled for Linux.
>
> The MIPS processor specifications are public, and available as printed
> books. Also, many of them are online at http://www.sgi.com/MIPS/.
>
> With the approval of the appropriate division general manager, I
> supplied the people doing the Indy port of linux with copies of the
> Indy hardware documentation.
>
> Since the Personal IRIX and Crimson use mostly VME controllers. those
> drivers should carry over from other VME ports. I don't know if I can
> arrange to provide documentation for the graphics controllers.
This may not be exactly the kind of thing some of y'all are looking
for, but since we're talking about doc & info sources for old SGI
hardware I felt I should point this one out:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/2258/4dfaq.html
Several handfulls of general notes about the 4D and/or other R3K
platforms.
Hope someone finds it useful.
cheers,
sr.
--
|| Steve Rikli <sr@sgi.com> ||| Any sufficiently advanced technology is ||
|| Systems Administrator ||| indistinguishable from a rigged demo. ||
|| NSD, EIS Infrastructure ||| ||
|| Silicon Graphics, Inc. ||| - Andy Finkel ||
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* Re: R3000 SGI machines
@ 1997-09-27 0:36 ` Ralf Baechle
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ralf Baechle @ 1997-09-27 0:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: William J. Earl; +Cc: imp, ralf, linux, ab
> Warner Losh writes:
> > In message <199709260639.XAA09959@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Ralf Baechle writes:
> > : I receive an increasing number of emails asking for Linux as replacement
> > : operating system for older R3000 SGI machines as well as Mips Inc.
> > : machines. Is there still documentation available for these systems
> > : that would make a port possible?
> >
> > I'll have to search my email archive (which would take some doing),
> > but someone at SGI offered to get me the sources to RISCos, or at
> > least the device drivers. They were donated to berkeley, who didn't
> > integrate them into their 4.4 or 4.4lite release, was the story I was
> > told. Might be worth looking into. Wouldn't help with some of the
> > older SGI machines, but would help with the MIPS co boxes.
>
> The RISCos driver source was supplied with every system, and we
> did donate the source to Berkeley. Most of the VME controllers were
> common to MIPS and SGI VME systems, so most of the drivers, other than
> graphics, would be covered.
I think I can still get access to RISC/os 5.x system, maybe also old
RISC/os 4.51 tapes. What files should I try to look for?
Andy, I think you still have Resi in use, don't you? Any driver sources
included?
Ralf
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* Re: R3000 SGI machines
@ 1997-09-27 0:36 ` Ralf Baechle
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ralf Baechle @ 1997-09-27 0:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: William J. Earl; +Cc: imp, ralf, linux, ab
> Warner Losh writes:
> > In message <199709260639.XAA09959@dull.cobaltmicro.com> Ralf Baechle writes:
> > : I receive an increasing number of emails asking for Linux as replacement
> > : operating system for older R3000 SGI machines as well as Mips Inc.
> > : machines. Is there still documentation available for these systems
> > : that would make a port possible?
> >
> > I'll have to search my email archive (which would take some doing),
> > but someone at SGI offered to get me the sources to RISCos, or at
> > least the device drivers. They were donated to berkeley, who didn't
> > integrate them into their 4.4 or 4.4lite release, was the story I was
> > told. Might be worth looking into. Wouldn't help with some of the
> > older SGI machines, but would help with the MIPS co boxes.
>
> The RISCos driver source was supplied with every system, and we
> did donate the source to Berkeley. Most of the VME controllers were
> common to MIPS and SGI VME systems, so most of the drivers, other than
> graphics, would be covered.
I think I can still get access to RISC/os 5.x system, maybe also old
RISC/os 4.51 tapes. What files should I try to look for?
Andy, I think you still have Resi in use, don't you? Any driver sources
included?
Ralf
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